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Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by jansan »

PaulWaldman wrote: post #160
866-RON-0-FEZ wrote: post #103

Ive is an overrated plonker and my first reaction is to wonder if all the serviceable components are glued in place. Do you know why no one has ever put rotating switches on a steering wheel face before? Because it requires two fingers to operate the switches and thus taking your entire hand off the wheel. Those knobs and switches might as well be in the center console because it takes a similar amount of effort and…

Porsche has a similar steering wheel mounted rotary switch. Traditionally it was on models optioned with the Sport Chrono package. They recently rolled it out to all new models over the past few years. https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/press-kits/taycan/Die-Driver...

An Xiaomi blatantly copied that for their SU7. I think the rotary switches are the best part of the Luce. Everything else looks like someone put Ferrari stickers on a Chinese EV.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by federicosimoni »

qsi wrote: post #251

The Tesla Model S Plaid has similar horsepower (1020 vs 1035), more torque (1050 lb ft vs 730), faster 0-60 (2.1 vs 2.4s), higher top speed (200 vs 193 mph), more range (358 vs 280 mi). For roughly 17% of the price. And it looks the same. What an abomination! (You can probably find similar Chinese EVs that also outperform similarly.)

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Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by 2III7 »

qsi wrote: post #251

The Tesla Model S Plaid has similar horsepower (1020 vs 1035), more torque (1050 lb ft vs 730), faster 0-60 (2.1 vs 2.4s), higher top speed (200 vs 193 mph), more range (358 vs 280 mi). For roughly 17% of the price. And it looks the same. What an abomination! (You can probably find similar Chinese EVs that also outperform similarly.)

The Model S is also a plasticky shitbox from the inside. This Ferrari will be colossally better in terms of build quality, ergonomics and handling compared to the S.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by monegator »

prmoustache wrote: post #389
PedroBatista wrote: post #73

Someone inside Ferrari had the terrible idea of greenlighting this and even more terrible lack of courage to not cancel this mistake because it was the baby turd of Jony Ive and Marc Newson. Fortunately everyone will laugh and cringe, the usual car "journalists" will bite their tongues because they don't want to lose access, time will pass and it will be forgotten because Ferrari can afford to make these mistakes ( f…

People have said the same of the first Porsche Cayenne, yet the Porsche SUVs have been outselling their sports cars for years.

That abomination is for porsche wannabes looking for an excuse to be better-than-you, there is a huge market for those

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by yur3i__ »

Feel like this is an answer to the Lamborghini Urus which, at the time, I remember the internet not being fond of either. But in the real world, they are now a massive status symbol

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by georgel »

bojan wrote: post #359
marklubi wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It reminds me of a rant that my friend sometimes goes on with regards to really low quality items, particularly about music... someone wrote it, someone performed it, someone mixed it, someone approved it, someone developed marketing for it, someone helped get it on shelves, and then someone played it. There were plenty of points along the way where the disaster could have been averted.

A lot of peple in this chain aren't paid to have a sense of ownership. They just do their job and their personal opinion of the work doesn't really matter.

Some of us care. Standing up and saying the product is crap leads to being asked to leave (fired). Or ends up on deaf ears, and the product is hated by people. Been in both situations, it doesn't seem there is a winning position.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by pavlov »

lmm wrote: post #400
pavlov wrote: post #365

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tesla Model S is discontinued. Whatever its merits, there wasn’t a market for it.

Which suggests that a similar but worse product shouldn't sell either?

The brand name counts for a lot in this market.

Lamborghini Urus sells well even though it’s inferior on every metric to cars a fraction of its price.

Tesla lost its premium brand cachet and consequently the Model S/X market.

Ferrari presumably has some data that there are buyers for a $500k scifi sports car with their logo on it.

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