Should have had Pininfarina do the body. The best looking Ferraris are all Pininfarina.
Ferrari has been doing in-house design for a while. With spotty results.
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#393When in school and we learn bits of history, (mostly day dreaming but sometimes information crept in) things like Shah Jahan cutting off all the hands of the sculptors of the taj mahal. I really wish Steve was alive and took inspiration, so that Jony wouldn't create trash like this.
This piqued my interest but I learned this is actually a myth.
Might be inspired by the Kremlin building. Same story but with Ivan and eyes.
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#394Lots of comments saying it looks ugly. I don't agree. But the $650,000 price tag is not pretty - that I can agree on. I know people will pay that.
Personally I do think it's ugly, but that's not what I don't like about it. Some Ferraris are actually ugly cars, but they are still Ferraris.
The Luce however has zero Ferrari design language in my opinion. It has no visual cues that say Ferrari. The powertrain obviously doesn't have it. The interior is like the ghost of Ferraris past, you can see the ideas there but it still doesn't say Ferrari to me.
The whole package feels like something in the $80-100k price bracket for sensible consumers - not someone looking to spend half a million dollars on a performance car that hawks back to racing pedigree.
I don't feel that this addresses anything a Ferrari buyer is asking for. However they'll still probably sell heaps of them because Ferrari buyers are often purchasing for clout.
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#395Someone inside Ferrari had the terrible idea of greenlighting this and even more terrible lack of courage to not cancel this mistake because it was the baby turd of Jony Ive and Marc Newson. Fortunately everyone will laugh and cringe, the usual car "journalists" will bite their tongues because they don't want to lose access, time will pass and it will be forgotten because Ferrari can afford to make these mistakes ( f…
People have said the same of the first Porsche Cayenne, yet the Porsche SUVs have been outselling their sports cars for years.
They are priced for wider appeal and a different target group. At my local dealer I have the impression it's mostly a certain kind of owners (who got it from their partner that bought a 911) but that's purely anecdotal. Don't think this works for Ferrari, but then again I see also quite some Lamborghini Urus which I will never understand
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#396Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, but this isn't a Tesla... If you're going to drive this slowly you might as well buy a Tesla
> If you're going to drive this slowly you might as well buy a Tesla Model S Plaid has faster acceleration than Luce and they have similar top speed. Reportedly, the Luce has more nimble handling.
The casio watch is more accurate than a mechanical watch, it doesn't mean I should like it more
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#397Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have this observation with the influx of soulless SUVs on the road. Every car group you see are always screaming out for manual, rear drive sports cars at an affordable price, but the majority of consumers just want a cube of car that has wheels and can go places. And they buy a new cube every year or two to keep up with the Joneses. Everyone then complains that the automakers aren't making what they want... But th…
Seems like chicken and egg. Buyers buy what's for sale, I feel like "the consumer" and "the market" are blamed for decisions made by people within these companies. We treat these people as forces of nature: "if the market tells them to make suv cubes, they'll make SUV cubes, they have no choice, their hands are tied!" But that presumes 1. that they're correctly interpreting consumer desire, 2. that consumer desire ca…
I do think about this a lot. Kind of like newspapers saying 'bad news sells', while they are also the ones deciding what news will be consumed.
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#398The Tesla Model S Plaid has similar horsepower (1020 vs 1035), more torque (1050 lb ft vs 730), faster 0-60 (2.1 vs 2.4s), higher top speed (200 vs 193 mph), more range (358 vs 280 mi). For roughly 17% of the price. And it looks the same. What an abomination! (You can probably find similar Chinese EVs that also outperform similarly.)
Well, at least Ferrari has hopefully higher quality materials.
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#399Horrible. I don't care if it was designed by Armani in his deathbed or Jony Ive himself. It's just horrible. The flat sides, not even reminiscence of the testarossa glorious days. Worse than the tesla truck and that's in the lowest levels of design. Be careful not to take the Jaguar road for there is no coming back.
It doesn't matter if it's ugly, it doesn't matter that the cyber truck is ugly, it doesn't matter if either are good cars. I spotted probably the only cybertruck in Taiwan the other day. It was waiting to turn on a busy road, and people were jogging over to take a picture of it. "Woah cool! Awesome! Handsome!" Lots of stuff like that being said. People share ai slop cat pictures on Facebook. There's HN commenters, th…
> It doesn't matter if it's ugly, it doesn't matter that the cyber truck is ugly, it doesn't matter if either are good cars.
The cybercar turned out to be a massive failure though. So, it kind of mattered?
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#400Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tesla model S accelerates faster and has a higher top speed, and also more range on a smaller battery.... For a absolutely tiny fraction of the price! It also looks better than this Nissan leaf knock-off! I'm not the target market, this thing costs more than my house! But I do think the specs are... Disappointing...
Tesla Model S is discontinued. Whatever its merits, there wasn’t a market for it.
Which suggests that a similar but worse product shouldn't sell either?