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Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by sheepscreek »

Wow. The only way I can describe this is as a bastard child of Apple and Rolls-Royce, and therein lies the problem. This doesn't feel like a Ferrari to me. Someone getting into a Ferrari wants to feel like they're trying to tame a beast, not being pampered in a Rolls-Royce.

Don't get me wrong, it's a stunning car. But I miss the screaming reds and yellows most of all. And the interface, polished as it is, feels almost too intuitive. Ferrari shouldn't feel effortless!

Now, if this were badged as an Apple car with a sticker price under $100k, we'd be having a very different conversation.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by dialogbox »

h14h wrote: post #231

Huh. I don't understand the hate because I think this looks incredible. The interior is head and shoulders the best I've ever seen in a car too. Might not look like other Ferraris, but why should it? It's NOT like other Ferraris.

Because the price tag is like other Ferries.

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Post by ehnto »

ChadNauseam wrote: post #196
pclmulqdq wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The look is nothing less than I would expect from "make it thinner and round the corners" pioneer Jony Ive. I don't know why people insist on EVs being kind of ugly and boxy, but Ferrari had a chance to do better and didn't.

I think energy efficiency matters more with EVs, because it determines how frequently you have to charge on road trips, and more aerodynamic designs look a bit uglier.

Ferrari makes hypercars, they know a thing or two about making aerodynamics look good. It's a primary concern of all their designs and yet all their other designs look a lot better than this.

I think they are just falling into the same trap all other manufacturers do at first. They think the customer buying the EV is a different customer, who didn't like their other cars. So they make the techno-future mobile for a customer that doesn't exist.

Just make the same cars with an EV drivetrain, that's what the person who loves your brand but is in the market for an EV wants.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by flyinglizard »

avereveard wrote: post #237

Fiat Multipla level design blunder

Bigger, because no one expects beauty from Fiat. That said, the Multipla was a bold and brilliant car. This one is only bold in the sense that “I can’t believe Ferrari allowed that to happen”. It’s kind of the Balenciaga of cars: will rich people buy just about anything with the right logo on?

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by freetime2 »

dcl wrote: post #219
freetime2 wrote: post #184

I feel like most Ferrari drivers are buying them as collector's items to be preserved rather than something to be driven. EVs, by contrast, feel more like appliances meant to be used and enjoyed. And there will always be a more advanced model coming out just around the corner. They've kind of hinted at the fact that this is meant to be more of an appliance than other models, with a more accesible price: > “We were ex…

Ferrari uses cars like this to test loyalty. If you want to get 'on the list' buying cars like this is one of the ways to do it, especially if you haven't spent considerable $ with them before.

I've heard about this in a clip with Jay Leno talking about why he's never bought a Ferrari [1]. It all sounds absolutely insane to me, but Ferrari buyers are a different breed I guess.

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjE6kbDdPzM

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by MitziMoto »

binkHN wrote: post #235
ChadNauseam wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think energy efficiency matters more with EVs, because it determines how frequently you have to charge on road trips, and more aerodynamic designs look a bit uglier.

> energy efficiency matters more with EVs This is correct, but I really don't see why Ferrari would care.

Exactly! Many Ferraris of the past have gotten single digit MPG, no one cares. All of a sudden they have to make a Chinese looking EV because of "efficiency"? Give me a break.

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Post by smotched »

bmitc wrote: post #227
Kuyawa wrote: post #208

Horrible. I don't care if it was designed by Armani in his deathbed or Jony Ive himself. It's just horrible. The flat sides, not even reminiscence of the testarossa glorious days. Worse than the tesla truck and that's in the lowest levels of design. Be careful not to take the Jaguar road for there is no coming back.

Oh, this is actually designed by Ive? It all makes sense now. He is a joke of a designer. I had thought people had stopped giving him work. This car has absolutely ZERO life to it for any manufacturer, much less a Ferrari.

I believe he only designed the interior

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by parpfish »

p1necone wrote: post #152
bix6 wrote: post #27

Specs are insane but why does it look like a budget sedan with a cool paint job? This sounds kind of fun. It’s curious they weren’t allowed to drive though.. > But I can say that the Torque Shift Engagement system — which gives the driver five power levels on the right paddle and five engine-braking levels on the left — is one of the most intriguing ideas I’ve seen in an electric car. It doesn’t simulate gear changes…

Chasing "driver engagement" during regular driving at/below speed limit on regular public roads strikes me as a bit pointless. You're just trying to add friction to the process because there happened to be friction in the past. And when you're not going the speed limit on regular public roads here's plenty of "driver engagement" to be had going too fast round tight corners (hopefully on a track, but we can't all be p…

an eletric lotus would be a blast, but having a big heavy battery seems antithetical to their entire car building philosophy

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by MitziMoto »

p1necone wrote: post #152
bix6 wrote: post #27

Specs are insane but why does it look like a budget sedan with a cool paint job? This sounds kind of fun. It’s curious they weren’t allowed to drive though.. > But I can say that the Torque Shift Engagement system — which gives the driver five power levels on the right paddle and five engine-braking levels on the left — is one of the most intriguing ideas I’ve seen in an electric car. It doesn’t simulate gear changes…

Chasing "driver engagement" during regular driving at/below speed limit on regular public roads strikes me as a bit pointless. You're just trying to add friction to the process because there happened to be friction in the past. And when you're not going the speed limit on regular public roads here's plenty of "driver engagement" to be had going too fast round tight corners (hopefully on a track, but we can't all be p…

So a Tesla Roadster? :)
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