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Is all the code running on my Google Pixel 10 licensed under GPL and/or MIT? I think we have our answer.
Sounds like another fellow GrapheneOS user!
Indeed!
California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash
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Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash
#262This will either fail or the entire law will go. Microsoft will spend a lot of money to make sure it's not at a disadvantage.
Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash
#263Okay, let's flip it: why would Apple, Microsoft, etc.. agree with such a law? What would the trickle down be for browser makers and website creators?
This is part of a large movement to end personal computing as we know it, and give all control over our digital lives to the mega corporations. It is already impossible to use some national ID or banking apps on non-Apple and non-Google phones. (say GrapheneOS), giving them an immense edge in the market, and they're using that domination to add more restrictions like installing non-play store apps on Android. This goes bit by bit, try to add a restriction, go back enough to quiet the backlash, try again. This new law is a foot in the door to achieve the same restrictions on PCs. PCs are the last open computing platform and bastions of personal digital freedom and thus they must be destroyed by capitalists and governments. Once the technical means have been put in place to restrict access to some services, the system can be hardened : impose that the age checks can't be tampered with by using a TPU module, impose a link to the individual's identity so that all online activity can be traced to anyone. Pretenses are easy to find : protect children, block sex offenders from accessing dating sites, and so on. At this point I'm pretty convinced we're geared towards a global totalitarian regime, and there's a lot of evidence.
Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash
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I think the header/metatag is designed poorly. The RTA proposal is that every operator of every site must verify the content and add the header to mark the site as "safe" or "unsafe". This is unnecessary burden that they have to bear if this proposal is given a green light and this is wrong. Instead, the default should be, that if there is no header or it cannot be parsed, then the content is unsafe. And if there is…
The page having a simple rating assumes there can be one mapping from content to rating for the whole world. I doubt we can even have one for North America and Europe.
Every app submitted to the App or Play store already has to do this. If parental controls are on, then users cannot download those apps.
The only hard part for the web is that a site could lie since there is no gatekeeper, but some black lists can help with bad actors.
Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash
#265If you look up either "half measures" or "unintended consequences" they should both say "See also: California"
Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash
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Yes, exactly, this should be really simple as a foundation: by default the Internet is for adults. All of it. Where it's desirable for things to be available for kids, create the economic incentive and easy tools for parents to use and run on a white list, not a black list. I'd actually go somewhat further though and ask whether it's a good idea to even do this via web pages at all. We have a great potential system f…
I think it really needs to be per-page. And, if we are going to do this the “design” should be global and anticipate a range of cultures.
That’s like saying movies should have to rate every scene so a 7 year old can watch the “safe” parts of an R movie?
If a site is really mixing so much content (like Reddit) then they should really be separating their sites into different subdomains.
Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash
#267All this because public institutions have lost the will or capacity to regulate the companies. So they switch to burdening the consumers.
This is regulation from a public institution. Regardless of how such a resolution is passed, it will impact the consumers.
It’s regulation on consumers, not companies
Banning or limiting addictive features like algorithmic feeds would be regulating the companies.
Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash
#268As usual 95+% of people commenting have no idea what is actually in the California law, and so are commenting about things that have nothing to do with it. Different states, countries, and multi-country organizations that have legislated in this area or are working on legislating in this area have went with many different approaches. These differ in their scope, how age is verified (or even if age is actually verifie…
It's not out of the ordinary for folks on HN to discuss the general subject of a topic and not the exact contents of TFA. The article tends to just be a catalyst for discussions.
It is kinda silly to read comments that do what you mention at the end (have a seemingly novel idea to fix the issue at hand and their solution is the one from TFA). That's just embarrassing.
But I feel like the rest of the discussions are fair game.
Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash
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Public education is extremely different from age checks in apps. Yes, homeschooled people are generally really dumb because humans are not born with the knowledge of the world or how to teach it. This is different from California telling Debian to ask for user ages.
You have that backward. The home-educated typically score 15 to 25 percentile points above public-school students on standardized academic achievement tests. -- https://nheri.org/research-facts-on-homeschooling/#Academic
I read one of those papers. Only between 10% and 25% of homeschool families completed the test. And that's of families that could be located because they had previously interacted with major homeschool testing companies; there isn't a national list of homeschooled kids and many parents homeschool precisely to avoid standardized testing. Plus in many cases the parents were the proctors. This is hardly a robust finding.
Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash
#270Linux was always exempt--because it's not an operating system.