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California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash

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Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash

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Why should Linux be exempt? Linux lobbyists seem to be against the public good. It takes an AI agent 5 minutes to add this feature and then they add be good forevermore. And given that the software is open source, everyone can use the same library to be compliant. Belly-aching snowflakes…

Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash

#93

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Kind of interesting - basically exempts any OS that’s under an MIT or GPL licence… … doesn’t that excuse Android and possibly XNU, too?

Is all the code running on my Google Pixel 10 licensed under GPL and/or MIT? I think we have our answer.

What are they defining as an operation system? It’s a term that has fuzzy edges as a technical term, and given laws are usually piss poor at defining technical terms, I can’t see it being well defined in CA law.

Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash

#94
This is the whole 'opt-in vs opt-out' at a high level. A better law would be crafted like 'some services have been determined to be harmful to minors and require age verification. Those -specific- services shall have these specific mitigations.....' Facebook and others should have a clear legal distinction of 'harmful to children' and then the law kicks in.

Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash

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> We certainly need surveillance, but it should only come from official sources. I hope you are never, ever in a position to set any kind of societal policy.

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Your false dichotomies, loaded questions, and attempts to tar others who disagree with you do not interest me, and I'm not going to engage with them.

I repudiate your statement that "We certainly need surveillance".

Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash

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The only device mandates that should be taking place is for the default installations of web clients should be checking to see if parental controls are enabled. This only impacts the major browsers. An intern at each browser company could add this check in minutes. If they are enabled and the person logged in is on a regular account (not admin or power user of sorts) then the base installation of web clients must che…

No such mandates should take place at all.

> No such mandates should take place at all

How do you propose doing age restrictions for social media?

These are broadly popular. (And the evidence supports them.) They are happening. So the question is how to do it best. The project for reversing the consensus isn’t worthless. But it’s a long-term project that will have to bear fruit after these restrictions go into effect, if ever.

Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash

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I agree with you, as a longtime free speech believe. but... I would also like to keep my kids from seeing the very worst of the internet before they're ready to handle it. I tried using a PiHole but Firefox DNS-over-HTTPS nullifies that now. It's not realistic for me to be watching over their shoulders 24/7; what can I do to keep them away from stuff 99% of people agree isn't for children to see, without something li…

Well, you can't. Like no past generation could stop their kids.

> no past generation could stop their kids

Past generations absolutely protected their kids from cigarettes and alcohol. A gate doesn’t have to be 100% effective to have net benefits.

Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash

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Is all the code running on my Google Pixel 10 licensed under GPL and/or MIT? I think we have our answer.

I think there's a lot of proprietary stuff, from Google Play Services to Pixel specific features. A very significant stack of "modern" software layers are proprietary, even on Android.

Modern open-source Android doesn't even include a working keyboard nowadays so...

Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash

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I agree with you, as a longtime free speech believe. but... I would also like to keep my kids from seeing the very worst of the internet before they're ready to handle it. I tried using a PiHole but Firefox DNS-over-HTTPS nullifies that now. It's not realistic for me to be watching over their shoulders 24/7; what can I do to keep them away from stuff 99% of people agree isn't for children to see, without something li…

Unbound DNS if compiled with --with-libnghttp2 can listen for DoH and your Unbound/Pihole can forward to any destination you desire. This is what it looks like on my firewall: # https://doh-int.mydomain.net/dns-query interface: [ip of lan port]@443 interface: [ip of wifi port]@443 https-port: 443 http-max-streams: 220 tls-service-key: "/etc/unbound/keys.d/unbound_server.key" tls-service-pem: "/etc/unbound/keys.d/unbo…

99% of people have no idea what this means, but they do understand voting.
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