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California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash

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Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash

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Post by SilverElfin »

Bender wrote: post #12
jahnu wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has this idea been discussed when drafting legislation? I mean are they aware of it but dismissed it for any reason or no stated reasons?

I've emailed politicians as have others but only received boilerplate thankyou's. I suspect the real reason is kick-backs but they will never admit it. No harm in people reaching out to their politicians state and federal. The more people that bring it up the better. Let them know your childrens data will not be shared and when the data is leaked you will hold the politicians accountable.

Yep, they get funding from companies like meta and their insiders

Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash

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Post by neilv »

Who is actually writing this very concerning California Internet legislation, which will ultimately affect the entire nation and world?

Did someone write California Internet legislation without consulting any California Internet companies?

Did some California Internet companies write California Internet legislation?

Did some other party write California Internet legislation?

Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash

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Post by user_7832 »

antiframe wrote: post #11
trollbridge wrote: post #4

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Kind of interesting - basically exempts any OS that’s under an MIT or GPL licence… … doesn’t that excuse Android and possibly XNU, too?

Is all the code running on my Google Pixel 10 licensed under GPL and/or MIT? I think we have our answer.

I think there's a lot of proprietary stuff, from Google Play Services to Pixel specific features. A very significant stack of "modern" software layers are proprietary, even on Android.

Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash

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Post by skybrian »

Bender wrote: post #26
skybrian wrote: post #21

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I largely agree, but the RTA header doesn't seem to be good enough for most websites to use. When a website wants to block browsers with parental controls on, but it isn't porn and it shouldn't be blocked by SafeSearch, what do they do? https://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/140733/how-to...

what do they do? They stop trying to put everything in a different category and treat RTA as the person under the age of consent must get approval from their parent or legal guardian. Keep it simple.

That's too simple to get much adoption. It's unreasonable to expect websites to drop out of Google search.

Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash

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Post by SilverElfin »

zarzavat wrote: post #30

A cynical person might suspect that the reason they are doing this is so that Linux developers don't have standing to challenge the law on 1st amendment grounds...

That’s exactly what it is. It removes standing, and that is a major flaw in our legal system. We need significant changes to defend constitutional rights properly.

Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash

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Post by blymphony »

cortesoft wrote: post #25
alpinisme wrote: post #9

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What tools would you want?

Honestly, I don’t have a perfect answer. It really depends on what the service is. My main thing is I want to be able to opt in or out of various filters. I don’t mind if my kids want to listen to music that has swear words, but I don’t want them watching videos where they give horribly sexist pickup artist advice. This isn’t just about what I feel is age appropriate, either. It is also about what I know about my kid…

I'm as a big of a horror movie fan as you can find, and I'm completely dumbfounded by the jump scares marketing is allowed to show in trailers nowadays. IMO (coming from someone who is basically unaffected by jump scares), they've gotten more shocking in the past couple years.

Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash

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Post by lynndotpy »

zeroCalories wrote: post #22

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When I hear that people own cameras, what I hear is that people are okay with children being harmed for the sight convenience of the freedom to create photographs. Let's just be honest about how we're calculting things: You think living without a camera, which is how humanity has lived for 99% of its existence, is worse than children being groomed.

Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash

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Post by themafia »

Bender wrote: post #18
themafia wrote: post #16

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> An intern at each browser company could add this check in minutes. An intern could also just delete the product which would also "solve" this "issue". The fact that it's easy or cheap is not significant to the problem at hand. > should be doing is setting an RTA header Many sites will just set the header by default. Now you've created a problem. > then progressively fine them into oblivion. This does nothing. See:…

On the topic of 4chan [1] Many sites will just set the header by default. Now you've created a problem. I am not seeing a problem. Kids need not access those sites unless the parent or legal guardian approves it. Sites meant for children would not be adding the header. [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47953096

> Sites meant for children would not be adding the header.

Is Wikipedia "meant for children?" Should they be fully denied access to it? Should Wikimedia be fined if they make a mistake? If they get fined often enough do you think they'll just turn the header on everywhere in order to avoid risk?

Replace Wikipedia with any other mixed content site you prefer.

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