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Gnutella: A Protocol Outliving the World That Created It

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Re: Gnutella: A Protocol Outliving the World That Created It

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Hot take: the simple reason Gnutella declined is that it was replaced by Bittorrent.

Sure, but the attached chat rooms were pretty handy, I used to like to download bootlegged concerts back in the day, to find new ones you've never heard of.

Plus, always fun to get laughed for mistyping The Almond Brothers Band at 3am...

Re: Gnutella: A Protocol Outliving the World That Created It

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I did a client called Gnucleus back in the day, the original website is still up at https://gnucleus.org/ I also designed GWebCache with a friend in college (also the IRC caching before that was me, I'm sorry). I think in the end the cost/benefit of the Gnutella architecture wasn't there. Especially in privacy - too much of a liability exposing your machine to serve files and route traffic. Also the efficiency of sea…

Thanks for dropping a comment! Collecting Gnutella history is a hobby of mine if the article did not make that apparent. I’ve seen a lot of your past work related to Gnucleus while researching the protocol and digging through old documents in archive.org. It always surprised me that the homepage was still online after so many years. Are you still active in open source / decentralized tech these days?

Yea, I'm working on a open source distributed, self-hosted agent runner https://naisys.org/

I also did a private decentralized system that was like WASTE+DHT around 2009 (https://github.com/swax/DeOps)

Re: Gnutella: A Protocol Outliving the World That Created It

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Didn't soulseek had some requirements you had to fulfill before downloading?

I've used soulseek pretty recently! There's a nice client called nicotine, IIRC. There are message bots that spam you with racist abuse if you're sharing nothing (i.e. not even your downloads), but that's about it.

Oh so pretty much the "classic" share something rule; that was pain in the ass in DC++ times but quality of whatever you could find there was best

Re: Gnutella: A Protocol Outliving the World That Created It

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Back in the day as a teenager. Downloaded mp3 that was labelled with title and artist and .mp3 extension. It wasn't. What it was caused me to wipe my hard drive and reinstall everything. Fkuc that shit. Apart from that, many good stuff was had.

or was it Windows hiding file extensions by default and you downloaded a .mp3.exe file?

Nope. It had been renamed from .avi. CP.

Re: Gnutella: A Protocol Outliving the World That Created It

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post #29

just reading gnutella triggered a really old memory of times when Ares, Limewire and eMule where places to try your luck getting mp3s and software

BearShare, too, which also included pictures and video. I don't remember ever getting a virus from it, but I also kept extensions visible.

I still get spam emails on the one-off email address I used to sign up for Bearshare.

Re: Gnutella: A Protocol Outliving the World That Created It

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for dropping a comment! Collecting Gnutella history is a hobby of mine if the article did not make that apparent. I’ve seen a lot of your past work related to Gnucleus while researching the protocol and digging through old documents in archive.org. It always surprised me that the homepage was still online after so many years. Are you still active in open source / decentralized tech these days?

Yea, I'm working on a open source distributed, self-hosted agent runner https://naisys.org/ I also did a private decentralized system that was like WASTE+DHT around 2009 ( https://github.com/swax/DeOps )

this is great!

I often wonder why we don't go back to systems like WASTE now.

We all finally have the bandwidth.

Re: Gnutella: A Protocol Outliving the World That Created It

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I've used soulseek pretty recently! There's a nice client called nicotine, IIRC. There are message bots that spam you with racist abuse if you're sharing nothing (i.e. not even your downloads), but that's about it.

Oh so pretty much the "classic" share something rule; that was pain in the ass in DC++ times but quality of whatever you could find there was best

DC++ now that's some nostalgia.

Myself used IRC XDCC bots connected to my 33k modem connected to my 486DX which would disconnect every three hours.

eDonkey, WinMX, lovely fashionable protocols.

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