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Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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I do find this an interesting take.

I will skip the "just war" theory, because I simply don't know enough to make a cogent argument

But

> attacks colonialism without explaining why Christians created colonies

Speaking as an english person with a passing interest in colonialism, this is an _interesting_ take.

Which colonies are you talking about? because the ones in America and Ireland were explicitly not catholic. More complex still some of them were super anti-pope, and a lot were just C-of-E catholic but sans pope

Could you explain more about your viewpoint?

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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The overarching message is that builders should deeply consider the impact of what they're building on civilization. "Technology is never neutral, because it takes on the characteristics of those who devise, finance, regulate and use it." Therefore builders "bear a particular ethical and spiritual responsibility" because "every design choice reflects a vision of humanity." The questions shouldn't just be 'can we buil…

Science and Engineering is morally detached.

Ask a scientist or engineer what philosophy or theology has taught us about the source of morality and their education, training and experiences havent prepared them to answer that question.

This didnt matter so much in the past because their activities never had the scale it does today. For basic training in philosophy if you are mid or upper level exec whose decisions are going to effect a whole lot of people, go to open yale courses and take the intro to Philosophy classes. It will help develop your answer to the question - why do you do what you do if you are going to die anyway tomorrow.

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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post #59
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If you share your prompt and model that created your summary then HN users can make their own hot take summary sub summaries.

ehhh, the model doesn't matter as much, the summary appears to be accurate (you can ctrl+f for keywords like "slavery", then see what's being said on the subject)

so for example with "Just War" we see this passage:

> it is important to reaffirm that the “just war” theory, which has all too often been used to justify any kind of war, is now outdated.

This would clearly be thought to be an error from a Catholic viewpoint, because the right to wage "justified war" comes from the individual right to self-defense, as applied to a collective group of people legitimately defending against aggression (maybe lots of people here for example would argue Ukraine is legitimately justified in waging defensive war against Russia, for example).

Hence while it is good to promote peaceful resolutions of conflict, the document goes too far in condemning legitimate self-defense.

(So while the whole long document likely says correct things about AI and the dignity of work, it also adds in things like the above that Catholics would clearly reject. Typically Catholics would accept what a pope is writing so if you're getting someone who claims to be pope teaching erroneously, this points to a bigger problem for Catholics.)

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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I didn't see an EPUB, so I made one from the Vatican HTML: TOC + footnotes, passes epubcheck. https://github.com/n2ctech/magnifica-humanitas-epub/releases...

Nice. Did you use AI? (I'm being half-sarcastic, and half wanting to confirm that this is an accurate reproduction of the text in the original)

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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As an atheist I have an obligation to finish reading it all (still going through, and taking notes, probably having to revisit), but I am not sure how many (christian) believers will feel the same.

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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> a uniformity that eliminated diversity and that chose homogenization over communion Unrelated to AI, but a wonderful support of the breadth of humanity in this anti-DEI time. > We must, then, avoid the “Babel syndrome,” namely the idolatry of profit that sacrifices the weak, a uniformity that neutralizes differences, and the pretense that a single language — even a digital one — can translate everything, including…

> > a uniformity that eliminated diversity and that chose homogenization over communion > Unrelated to AI, but a wonderful support of the breadth of humanity in this anti-DEI time. I mean.. DEI was in reality homogenization and eliminated diversity. Just because you agreed with the small amount of allowed opinions/people doesn't make it more diverse.

Perhaps, perhaps not; but you can't possibly argue that the current anti-DEI climate better fosters diversity than a pro-DEI or a-DEI environment.

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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The em-dashes present within the writing made me pause and consider how much of this was written/exited by AI.

Quick browse through pre-AI works from John Paul II show em-dashes present.

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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I do find this an interesting take. I will skip the "just war" theory, because I simply don't know enough to make a cogent argument But > attacks colonialism without explaining why Christians created colonies Speaking as an english person with a passing interest in colonialism, this is an _interesting_ take. Which colonies are you talking about? because the ones in America and Ireland were explicitly not catholic. Mo…

ig it's about French and Belgians in Africa, and Spanish in America.
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