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Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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Post by yuppiepuppie »

LPisGood wrote: post #38
hks0 wrote: post #25

A friend of mine started "blowing air into water with an straw" (making bubbles) very seriously. I was very skeptical to say the least; but after a couple of months the effects have been very eye opening. Not only it has helped sleep apnea and snoring but also helped with reducing their weight. They had an online group and most participants reported the same. The wight loss was reverted when they stopped for some per…

I don’t mean to be rude, but what kind of personal reasons might stop a person from breathing into a straw at night

They objected to the Paper Straw Mandate

Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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Post by dmos62 »

N_Lens wrote: post #49
LPisGood wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t mean to be rude, but what kind of personal reasons might stop a person from breathing into a straw at night

Probably summoning a fish demon.

Made me laugh. Thank you.

Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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Post by mariusor »

y-curious wrote: post #43
nubinetwork wrote: post #41

Yeah I dunno if I believe this, I played trombone when I was a kid... I didn't get sleep apnea until like 10 years ago. Unless it somehow takes like 30 years to develop, it seems implausible.

n=25, self report AND only players with partners. I think there’s merit to using muscular musculature to improve your sleep apnea but this doesn’t answer the question of why playing the instrument wasn’t preventative in the first place.

Because anatomy not consistently used declines in fitness?

Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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Post by dmos62 »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #35
Darmani wrote: post #21

I started playing didgeridoo 10 years ago for precisely this reason. Sleep apnea already cured by weight loss, but I knew by air pathways were prone to it, and I never wanted it to come back. It worked It took me 1-2 years to learn circular breathing, but even just learning to play for 15 seconds on one breath can give the "oxygen high" from breathing so much.

You can't get "oxygen high" from breathing normal air. The O2 levels will always stay the same unless you stop breathing for a while. What will make you feel weird in the head when breathing too fast is the reduction of CO2 in your blood.

So, if you breathe in an intensive manner for a few minutes, oxygen percentage in the blood won't change?

Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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Post by smartial_arts »

roel_v wrote: post #18
idiocrat wrote: post #7

There seems to be a typing mistake. The embouchure should have diameter of 2.8-3.2 centimeters, not millimeters. Perhaps that can be done DIY from an PVC pipe with an hot air gun or a gas burner to soften and shape the end. "Participants received a standardised acrylic plastic didgeridoo that was developed by the instructor in collaboration with Creacryl GmbH (Ebmatingen, Zurich, Switzerland, and costs €80 (£43; $94)…

"Perhaps that can be done DIY from an PVC pipe with an hot air gun or a gas burner to soften and shape the end." When I used to make my own PVC didgeridoos, I would melt candle wax and then dip one end repeatedly into the wax to build up wax layers until it had the desired thickness and shape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiqEhJJqtbc

Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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Post by masfuerte »

mariusor wrote: post #54
y-curious wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

n=25, self report AND only players with partners. I think there’s merit to using muscular musculature to improve your sleep apnea but this doesn’t answer the question of why playing the instrument wasn’t preventative in the first place.

Because anatomy not consistently used declines in fitness?

And unused muscles start to significantly decline in your mid-forties. Maybe thirty years after playing trombone as a kid.

Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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Post by larodi »

ncruces wrote: post #42
wiredfool wrote: post #37

Unfortunately, digeridoo playing is just as disruptive to partner's sleep as snoring is. Perhaps they should try bagpipes?

I suspect bagpipes may be the worst wind instrument to learn in this regard, at least if the goal is to train circular breathing?

I would imagine some basic breathing techniques may help, wonder what the research in anuloma viloma pranayama shows, but beware there's a lot written by random people on the internet about it without scientific evidence.

Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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Post by gblargg »

askvictor wrote: post #52
jojobas wrote: post #19

Looks like there was no placebo group? Don't know what that could be, something silly like otamatone lessons.

RTFA? "Participants in the control group remained on the waiting list for lessons"

That's not a placebo. A placebo would be learning to play some other instrument like a piano, that doesn't involve breath. I also RTFA and saw no mention of any meaningful control group. For all they know the effects would come from learning any instrument, or just going to regular classes, or...

Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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Post by cenamus »

dmos62 wrote: post #55
sigmoid10 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't get "oxygen high" from breathing normal air. The O2 levels will always stay the same unless you stop breathing for a while. What will make you feel weird in the head when breathing too fast is the reduction of CO2 in your blood.

So, if you breathe in an intensive manner for a few minutes, oxygen percentage in the blood won't change?

No it would stay at pretty much 100% (as is normal). But co2 goes down, which lessens the ability of oxygen to come out of the blood. That's why you get dizzy when hyperventilating
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