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Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#81
A little off topic but my position is that a Linux distribution ought to be a series of build options, package selection and configuration. Ultimately, you should be able to do this in a few files.

The fact that it takes so much more to put together a Linux distribution is I think something that the Linux ecosystem ought to aspire to change.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#82
For those here that are old enough to remember Knoppix I think there are some similar things happening here. There were similar theads about Knoppix not being a distro for those who installed to their hdd using the live cd. But there was also clear demand for what it offered.

I for one really liked the out-of-box Omarchy experience and wouldn't know the first thing right now about how to customize arch so that it feels the same as Omarchy. Maybe it's trivial? But honestly I don't care I just like Omarchy's default opinion design way better than any other distro I've tried so far.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#83

Whether we call it a distribution or not is really a matter of semantics. The more interesting question is, do people actually want a hyper-opinionated Linux install? Based on the reactions to Omarchy that I've seen, the answer is obviously yes. Broadly, people seem ok with just not using some of the suggested software if the defaults get them most of the way there. More generally, I would say that configuring one's…

“Hyper-opinionated” and “good OOB experience” are orthogonal to each other.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#84
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I've tried to setup Arch with Hyprland like 3 times on my own and with the most popular dot files. It was terrible, frustrating and things broke all the time. Omarchy fixed that and I can't recommend it enough.

Did dhh provide a recipe to install hyprland properly without having to install a full "distribution"? (I don't know, it's a real question) It feels very strange (and wrong) to me: if there is difficulties in installing something, try to help people instead of packaging the solution with other things that are not related. It feels a bit like if uv was mainly providing their "uvOS" to solve the difficulties of dealing…

>Did dhh provide a recipe to install hyprland properly without having to install a full "distribution"? (I don't know, it's a real question)

I would guess in typical DHH fashion he would say it is Open Source. And I don't understand where this just Arch + Hyprland installation is coming from?

They have also customised the OS / distro so it install in less than 2 min on a super fast USB. Getting Laptops, both Framework and Dell are now on board, tested on Omarchy so they work out of the box. And so many other tiny things that just make the experience better. I say better but to most consumer, those are expected in the first place.

And this "expectation" people have been waiting for more than a decade.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#85
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Pretty clear by the other opinions this author has on his “blog” that he dislikes DHH for more than just the Omarchy distribution. Here’s a fact - Omarchy opened up Arch to a whole crowd of people that would have never tried Arch given its notorious difficulty to the uninitiated.

It also opened up trying a tiling WM to a whole crowd of people that never would have bothered. To the uninitiated it's not exactly easy to get hyprland + all the extra utilities for status bar, menu, wallpaper, theming, etc. running. Then figuring out how their individual configs work, then making it look good on top of that. It's a ton of effort.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#86

I'm old, is "ricing" (along with "ricer", "rice burners", "rice rockets", etc.) no longer racist?

I think most of the people who use the term in the context of Linux desktops don't know the term's origin (or at least don't stop to think about it), so the possibility of it being racist never occurs to them.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#87
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Well, this "not distro" software that takes over your whole computer when you boot the ISO and install it has been the greatest out-of-the box Linux experience for me, and has introduced me to the best new way of using an operating system since I first installed a Linux distro ~20 years ago. And yes I did actually end up going thru archinstaller first as the other route failed, but turned out it was archinstall faili…

The instructions on the back of the prepared meal box is not a cookbook. This is not a judgement of using a prepared meal box .

FYI, most meals that are DISTRibuted through different convenient means are "prepared".

If I didn't want a distro, I'd just go with something like Buildroot, or even more elementary. Yes, this is one of the projects I also have in mind to understand better and with the cross-supporting goal of reducing boot time of a machine that'll eventually run my game engine, with the reference of running said game engine on a n MCU.

But that's not what I want from desktop Linux of a pedigree that'd have potential of replacing my daily driver requirements, which are actually quite difficult to match, but I do have hope.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#88
This article gives me the feeling of someone arguing that the Thai restaurant I like isn’t serving real Thai food. They might even be right, but I don’t know because I don’t care. I like the food.

Back to the article, they then list a bunch of things that I think are supposed to be negatives, but includes things like some shortcuts and some software I already use pre-installed.

So let’s grant that the title is true. So what?

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#89
post #84
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did dhh provide a recipe to install hyprland properly without having to install a full "distribution"? (I don't know, it's a real question) It feels very strange (and wrong) to me: if there is difficulties in installing something, try to help people instead of packaging the solution with other things that are not related. It feels a bit like if uv was mainly providing their "uvOS" to solve the difficulties of dealing…

>Did dhh provide a recipe to install hyprland properly without having to install a full "distribution"? (I don't know, it's a real question) I would guess in typical DHH fashion he would say it is Open Source. And I don't understand where this just Arch + Hyprland installation is coming from? They have also customised the OS / distro so it install in less than 2 min on a super fast USB. Getting Laptops, both Framewor…

> Getting Laptops, both Framework and Dell are now on board, tested on Omarchy so they work out of the box. And so many other tiny things that just make the experience better. I say better but to most consumer, those are expected in the first place. And this "expectation" people have been waiting for more than a decade.

As a fan of boring Dell laptops/desktops and owner of many, I can tell you they have been well supported in every distro I have tried (Debian, Fedora, Arch, SUSE)

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#90
I mean... Yeah, it's a curated set of dotfiles that one guy spent a while tuning to his liking.

I don't use it, but I figure it's just a matter of most people being too lazy to polish up their own equivalent, so they'll use someone else's.

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