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Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#61
> as a longtime frequenter of r/unixporn, it was immediately apparent to me that omarchy is not a linux distribution in any traditional sense

I'm not sure why "I browse reddit" is any sort of a valid qualifier upon which to base this decision

but yes otherwise the article is correct, dotfiles != distro

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#62
post #43

We seem to have arrived at a set of assumptions that states that if a large number of people like something that we don’t, or don’t subscribe to some cultural norms that we doggedly adhere to, then there has to be something sinister afoot. The out of box experience with Omarchy is highly functional, aesthetically pleasing and challenges users to lean more on keyboard shortcuts than they’d typically be used to. That’s…

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Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#63
The author's complaint is that omarchy is basically a set of ricing on top of arch. I can grok that

Problem is, some people are really impressed by ricing and that is what has been catching users for that ""distro""

I'm pretty sure the fans of minimalism/t distros or just plain bare setups aren't really hyping that much. The author is right in that it's just an opinionated layer on top of Arch

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#64

Usually these types of articles are written about things that challenge status quos. I remember reading a lot about Ruby on Rails in the same vein "ruby isn't a real language", "rails is just a collection of scripts", and "you can't build real web apps with it." If Omarchy is upsetting the Linux establishment as much as this article implies (unclear if this is just a one-off) then it's probably worth a look!

The upset is due to the imbalance between what omarchy really is and the buzz around it. When your “distro” could be a bash script on a vanilla arch install, is it really worth making a distro?

This is just more perpetuation of the distro fragmentation that doesn’t need to exist.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#65
The new quickshell based omarchy shell is pretty excellent foundation already, I’m very excited for it to be released on omarchy 4.0.

Omarchy really has excellent defaults and generally development is always moving in the right direction.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#66
if we depended on you no one would use linux then. This is the type of garbage mentality that we need OUT this community.

We need Linux to win period. I don't care if it's called Distro, gist of envfiles, or a tank for gods sake. I want the market share for linux rather than macOs and Windows.

"omarchy install will include a bunch of proprietary software, including... what are we doing?? these are not the kinds of packages that any sane distro would ship to its users" - Ye this is great software. You know what is not good? when you download a distro that only has open source software and your codecs doesn't work, then that person just install windows again (true story many of my friends went through that). So please, don't tell people to skip stuff just because you dislike it

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#67
By your reasoning of what is or is not a distribution, Ubuntu is not a distribution. After all, it’s just opinionated Debian. The vast majority of distributions are, by your logic, not distributions. I’m okay with this, but that isn’t how the word is commonly used.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#68
post #44
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did dhh provide a recipe to install hyprland properly without having to install a full "distribution"? (I don't know, it's a real question) It feels very strange (and wrong) to me: if there is difficulties in installing something, try to help people instead of packaging the solution with other things that are not related. It feels a bit like if uv was mainly providing their "uvOS" to solve the difficulties of dealing…

If I remember it correctly Omarchy started as an in-house alternative to macOS in one of DHHs companies. And was then released to the public. So the purpose of Omarchy was to get devices quickly set up with some opinionated defaults.

He built it for himself first, posting frequently about it on X. Once it reached a point of stability, he announced that Basecamp was starting to transition it's employees from macOS to it.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#70
post #49
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I remember it correctly Omarchy started as an in-house alternative to macOS in one of DHHs companies. And was then released to the public. So the purpose of Omarchy was to get devices quickly set up with some opinionated defaults.

So, is the answer "no"? I don't think it changes anything about what I was saying. If indeed dhh helped find a way to install hyprland more easily but failed to also provide a standalone recipe, that does not sound like a good practice to me.

The answer is: no, solving your problem was not the goal of the project.

But the source code is public, you can extract the relevant scripts from the repo: https://github.com/basecamp/omarchy

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