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Re: DeepSeek reasonix, DeepSeek native coding agent with high caching and low cost

#82
I don't think it's particularly effective to create a new coding agent when there's existing open-source agents (especially extremely extensible ones like Pi) that already optimize for cache hits, have far larger communities, and work for providers other than Deepseek.

I specifically use multiple different models and providers, so this wouldn't be useful for me.

And it contributes to the problem of each person vibe-coding their own, incompatible, half-baked tool in a space, instead of contributing to a small set of tools and expanding them.

It'd be better to just extend an existing tool.

Re: DeepSeek reasonix, DeepSeek native coding agent with high caching and low cost

#83
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wrote a tiny little bridge so I could use DeepSeek V4 Pro via Codex Can you share the bridge. DeepSeek v4 is awesome paired with claude-code or opencode. I found that claude code costs me less than opencode and I am presuming this is due to a better engineered harness.

I’m feeling more a novice every day, but how isn’t this just handing over your code to team deepseek for whatever they might want

there's laws on the books in China that says that every company operating in China must aid and abet the Chinese government in espionage against the rest of the world. given those facts, I find it deeply troubling to be using anything coming out of China, especially a program that runs in the context of a Linux terminal on a machine that might have something important on it. I'd argue it's a back door waiting to happen, if not sooner than obviously later.

Re: DeepSeek reasonix, DeepSeek native coding agent with high caching and low cost

#84
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That'd be really easy to spot and also fix, most likely. Any open issue you could point us to, must surely been reported already?

Opencode (and other coding agents) have hundreds of open issues reported. It is quite discouraging when they are not being closed/fixed.

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Re: DeepSeek reasonix, DeepSeek native coding agent with high caching and low cost

#85

It's pretty funny, i'm a $200/m Claude subscriber and i've had little need to use anything else. However the more Claude has been restricting my workflow (notably around the recent IDE/-p usage change) the more i've been wanting to go elsehwere. I'm concerned since i really want SOTA reasoning, but DeepSeek still has me interested.

If you want SOTA reasoning you should be using GPT 5.5 Pro.

Re: DeepSeek reasonix, DeepSeek native coding agent with high caching and low cost

#87
post #31

I'm not sure you need a "DeepSeek native coding agent" to take advantage of DeepSeeks cache, yesterday as the Codex quota usage issue still wasn't solved for me, I wrote a tiny little bridge so I could use DeepSeek V4 Pro via Codex, and seems most of everything I did was basically cached as far as I can tell: https://i.imgur.com/7eKn6wN.png (2026-05-23 Input (Cache hit): 39,123,200 tokens, Input (Cache miss) 1,692,28…

Opencode has really bad cache stability issues that they seem uninterested in fixing at the moment.

The OpenCode devs talk about this on Twitter a lot, e.g. https://xcancel.com/thdxr/status/2048268697790300343

> tool call pruning breaks cache and people will tell you this is horrible and expensive

> except i looked at some anthropic data and real user behavior ends up with better cache hits and 30% less spend

> even this is needs to be analyzed further, it's just not simple

> for openai data it's inverted! cache hit ratio is actually better [sic: I think he meant worse based on the screenshot] with tool call pruning turned on

> but the net $ saved is only 5%

> kimi is a funny one - it has better cache hits with pruning on...but is also more expensive!

There was also another thread recently where he discussed that pruning improves user experience (models are smarter with less context) but I can't find it.

This can also be disabled in the config: https://opencode.ai/docs/config/#compaction

Re: DeepSeek reasonix, DeepSeek native coding agent with high caching and low cost

#90
This is really tickling the conspiracy theorist part of my brain.

"Independent open-source project · not affiliated with DeepSeek" "Reasonix only targets DeepSeek because..." "Why DeepSeek only? Can I swap to Claude / GPT? It's a design choice, not a limitation"

The lady doth protest too much, methinks?

Nicely timed shortly after the making the rebate permanent anouncement.

Could just be Chinese devs trying to help western devs with some software and a western facing marketing campaign to raise awareness. Could be DeepSeek astroturfing. Could be "someone" in China trying to get more access to western data.

Who knows?

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