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The seed oil panic is hurting my cardiac patients

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Re: The seed oil panic is hurting my cardiac patients

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> Back in the hospital, my patients are replacing olive oil with beef tallow

This is a weird thing to call out since olive oil isn't a seed oil. Is the point that patients are confused? Does the author (a purported dietitian) not know this himself/herself?

Re: The seed oil panic is hurting my cardiac patients

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post #9

"The food industry reformation underway isn’t making chips healthier; it’s swapping one fat for another inside the same ultra-processed product while everything else stays the same. " The same ignorance is driving the push to replace HFCS with sucrose. Vendors selling garbage products saw renewed life as now they can pretend they've made a change for good, and now it's somehow healthy. Like, people legitimately think…

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Re: The seed oil panic is hurting my cardiac patients

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I feel like its another symptom of dying health institutions. These kinds of beliefs also lead people down other ridiculous roads.

I've seen the thought process of someone go from:

- replacing seed oils with animal-based oils

- arguing against the role of LDL in increased CVD and events

- building a more animal-centric and meat-heavy diet

- using "looks-maxxing" terminology to describe their diet and associated beliefs around that diet

- digging deeper into that subculture and believing our ancestors only ate meat

- why do we eat plants or "goy-slop"? well because of [x]

- extreme pseduo-science about other topics

From a technological prespective, we all know that social media accelerates this thought pipeline by feeding people certain content. I also feel like Instagram orders comments in a certain way to specifically engage an individual user. Like making sure they see either a statement they'd agree with OR vehemently disagree with. This is regardless of the number of likes.

Re: The seed oil panic is hurting my cardiac patients

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> Back in the hospital, my patients are replacing olive oil with beef tallow This is a weird thing to call out since olive oil isn't a seed oil. Is the point that patients are confused? Does the author (a purported dietitian) not know this himself/herself?

A few paragraphs into the article, the author addresses the "seed oil" misnomer; it's better to keep reading before jumping to the comments to do a knee-jerk comment to a single statement.

Re: The seed oil panic is hurting my cardiac patients

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> Back in the hospital, my patients are replacing olive oil with beef tallow This is a weird thing to call out since olive oil isn't a seed oil. Is the point that patients are confused? Does the author (a purported dietitian) not know this himself/herself?

>Does the author (a purported dietician) not know this him/herself?

FTA: First, “seed oils” is a marketing term, not a nutritional category. What we’re actually talking about are vegetable oils high in polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats

Re: The seed oil panic is hurting my cardiac patients

#19
I try to take the middle road:

Making 50-75%+ of my calories come from refined, powderized carbs and sugar (original food pyramid) - Bad

Eating whole foods, lightly cooked. Whole food starch sources, often retrograde starch. avoid high heat fried foods, eat mostly leaner meats - Good

Declaring plants and seed oils evil, nothing but lard, tallow and red meat and a dozen eggs a day - Bad

Two meals day with no snacking works for me. 3 meals a day feels like im stuffing myself.

Re: The seed oil panic is hurting my cardiac patients

#20

> Back in the hospital, my patients are replacing olive oil with beef tallow This is a weird thing to call out since olive oil isn't a seed oil. Is the point that patients are confused? Does the author (a purported dietitian) not know this himself/herself?

It really isn't weird, and given the entire rest of the article clearly the author understands.

RFK and friends have health-washed tallow. While their ridiculous new food recommendations claimed to "end the war on protein", it's pretty clear by all the surrounding material that they really wanted to "end the war on saturated fats". Their recommendations are filled with saturated-fat heavy foods (while cowardly sticking to the same old guidelines on percentage of calories from the same).

"Influencers" are pushing tallow as the best oil, despite literally the entirety of the evidence completely annihilating that claim.

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