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Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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> and paid over $100,000 in taxes last year alone Genuinely curious, what does taxes have to do with it? Everyone pays taxes, legal or illegal in some form. I don’t think paying your dues should make you more likely to get through the pipeline. After all, you paid those taxes because you made good money, which is what people come here for.

I think the point is that they are contributing to the US, and were the best option for their employer, and are supporting their communities, etc. All things that we should be supporting if we are indeed wishing our nation to prosper. A plurality of Americans don’t pay federal income taxes, so we’re essentially turning away someone who is building up our country.

> So we’re essentially turning away someone who is building up our country.

They're not being turned away. There's a requirement to be in the country for 5 years with a green card before citizenship. It seems to me that they are just upset that they have to follow the rules which aren't hurting them at all.

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This is insane. I cannot fathom how I, nor educated and talented people I know, could have possibly stayed in the US back in the day if this requirement had been in place then. Applying for a greencard while working on an H, J or O-class visa is extremely common. Far from a loophole, applying from inside the US is the only reasonable way to apply for a greencard. Depending on the country of origin, there may not even…

Unfortunately, I think this is the point. They want to push the needle so that even legal immigration is restricted or difficult (unless you happen to pay them directly) https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/23/us/politics/trump-legal-i...

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The US isn’t what it used to be. It’s definitely not the best place in the world to live for quality of life, on basically any metric. The requirement of being permanently obligated to pay us taxes on global income, if you have any kind of global mobility, is not worth it when you look at the situation objectively. The US is the only country that requires this, and signing up is voluntarily. So while US immigration c…

> It’s definitely not the best place in the world to live for quality of life, on basically any metric.

I guess these immigrants must be stupid.

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There does appear to be a limited walk back for dual intent visa holders (H1B and L1) “A spokesperson for US Citizenship and Immigration Services, however, told Semafor that H1-B visa holders and high-skilled workers might not be affected in the near term.” Source: https://www.semafor.com/article/05/22/2026/trump-orders-gree...

That “might” is rather load-bearing for something you are literally staking your future on, though.

Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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This administration has made it clear in no uncertain words or actions. They don’t want immigrants. And if you think this is bad policy, please stop voting for them. Please vote for the alternative candidates. This is the easiest way to fix this nonsense.

I will vote in midterms. Enough is enough.

Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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I don't think it applies to folks on H or L visas. Wording from the site: "Nonimmigrants, like students, temporary workers, or people on tourist visas, come to the U.S. for a short time and for a specific purpose. Our system is designed for them to leave when their visit is over. Their visit should not function as the first step in the Green Card process. "

I'm not sure I share your optimism. What is a worker on an H-class visa, if not a "temporary worker"? I read this with the assumption that "nonimmigrant visa" applies to every category of visa listed here under "Nonimmigrant Visa Categories": https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/visa-inf...

It specifically lists H1B as non-immigrant visa on that page, so if you are here working at Google you must leave the country.

Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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It’s intentional malevolence that’s a given from this admin

The secret sauce is bad faith and crime.

Thankfully, malevolence, bad faith, and crime are unsustainable as governmental motivations.

Unfortunately, they do stir the populace in a cadence long enough that prior examples are are only fragments of memory.

More unfortunately, however, is that the time it takes to heal from such governments is similar to said cadence.

Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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This is insane. I cannot fathom how I, nor educated and talented people I know, could have possibly stayed in the US back in the day if this requirement had been in place then. Applying for a greencard while working on an H, J or O-class visa is extremely common. Far from a loophole, applying from inside the US is the only reasonable way to apply for a greencard. Depending on the country of origin, there may not even…

The UK, the EU, Japan, and Australia all have identical rules to this policy.

UK's 'indefinite leave to remain' (closest thing to a green card) requires that you apply from within the UK. https://www.gov.uk/long-residence/apply-to-settle

Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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Unfortunately, I think this is the point. They want to push the needle so that even legal immigration is restricted or difficult (unless you happen to pay them directly) https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/23/us/politics/trump-legal-i...

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Let's say the government can't care for 100M people because of lack of doctors. Now they could train one over 10 years, or you could have one of the smartest doctors in the world come be 100M+1. Would you take that?

Now expand that across socio-economic spectrum (not enough plumbers, teachers, AI experts, researchers etc). That is what legal immigration is meant for.

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