Silicon Valley bigwigs supported this administration vocally. I am starting to doubt that their interests and morality align with mine.
Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says
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#472Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you're in your visa or green card process it's not uncommon to be advised not to travel out of the country... Yep. You're kind of in jail. It doesn't mean that you cannot, it just means that it might complicate your already complicated application. So if a family member dies, maybe... But that's it
I've known people who left for a brief period during the GC process on emergency basis and then were put into a literal jail on their return to the USA.
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#473I hear "I'm not anti immigrant, I'm anti illegal immigrant" a lot. To which there is an easy solution: increase the number of legal immigrants we allow. Instead we're doing exactly the opposite, cutting down on legal immigration as well. Making it hard for me to believe that it was ever about illegal immigration at all.
"an easy solution: increase the number of legal immigrants we allow." Not really. The answer is: have a fair, transparent and function system. Then - yes - you can totally 'increase' (or decrease) as needed. 'Increase a bit' likely the right thing to do - but it's a completely separate question. But throwing Green Card holders out is completely insane, grabbing people out of church and schools and putting them into d…
> Then you can adjust the numbers one way or another.
The numbers need to go up.
China, in particular, has an "elite overproduction" problem. We should be welcoming every English-speaking Chinese STEM degree holder with open arms.
Anyone, from anywhere, with a STEM degree and a job offer from a US company, should be in this country. Period.
America needs to be the leader of the knowledge workforce world. We also need a vibrant and wealthy tax base and consumer base.
If we don't do this, China and other up-and-coming nations will increasingly start to displace us, which puts all of our workers at a disadvantage.
Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says
#474Companies don’t want their H1s getting a green card and the freedom that comes with it.
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#475I had 10 years of work experience and had been married to my wife for two years, together for five, when I applied for my spousal visa. We had already gone through the UK visa process to bring her there, but decided we wanted to try the USA. Despite being able to show 10 years of consistent working history with income far exceeding the minimum, because I didn’t have a job lined up in the US (who would, or could, in t…
The USA don't owe you citizenship. It's on you to prove that your presence there would be of benefit to the other citizens.
Wish granted: You are no longer a citizen because you never "proved you were beneficial". Please remit $100,000 to the Citizenship Payment Service immediately to avoid being downgraded to serfdom. /s
Framing it that way is backwards and anti-democratic. Democratic citizenship is something the government "owes" you because it is imposing control on your life. It is not some kind of magnanimous gift of club membership, you already deserved to have a say in what's being done to you.
That's why most Americans (and their children) have never once been required to "prove" that they are "beneficial", and it's why people the government is controlling in jails are still citizens rather than objects.
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#476The US isn’t what it used to be. It’s definitely not the best place in the world to live for quality of life, on basically any metric. The requirement of being permanently obligated to pay us taxes on global income, if you have any kind of global mobility, is not worth it when you look at the situation objectively. The US is the only country that requires this, and signing up is voluntarily. So while US immigration c…
The extreme privilege of being forced to pay a major portion of all income you make, regardless of where you earn it, to the us gov indefinitely. And they make it hard for you to apply to do this. Crazy.
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#477As an American, I just want to say that I'm very dismayed by the discourse around this topic over the past 24 hours in particular. The polarization of politics has become so intense, that the bipartisan mainstream position of just a couple of decades ago – that immigrants are a net positive to this country – feels like a distant dream. We've gone from perpetually punting the football on comprehensive immigration refo…
> The polarization of politics has become so intense
> The same people who want to paint the Statue of Liberty gold seem to have no clue what it represents
You seem to be lamenting political polarization and in the same breath making character attacks on one side of the isle. Pick one.
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#478The whole immigration argument basically boils down to two schools of thought. 1) Those who believe that every human born on this planet has a basic right to move to and live in, any country that they want. 2) Those who believe that the people who are currently citizens of countries around the world, have the right to set strict restrictions on who is allowed to move there. These two schools are fundamentally at odds…
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#479When I renewed my H1B visa (I think after three years), I had to leave the US to do it. I couldn't renew it from inside. The permission to work got renewed just fine - I could just keep on working for another three years - but if I left after the first visa expired, and wanted to come back, I would need a new _visa_ (thing stuck into my passport) to come back, and I could only apply for that while outside the country…
> I read that it used to not be like this, that it used to be possible to renew the _visa_ itself from inside the US, but that got changed before my time. I can only imagine that the reason for that was that non-citizens inside the US are entitled to due process, but non-citizens outside the US are not. And denying a visa to somebody outside the US is therefore a lot easier than denying it to somebody inside the US,…
But then why change the renewal process for the people who were already fingerprinted for the original visa?
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#480I had 10 years of work experience and had been married to my wife for two years, together for five, when I applied for my spousal visa. We had already gone through the UK visa process to bring her there, but decided we wanted to try the USA. Despite being able to show 10 years of consistent working history with income far exceeding the minimum, because I didn’t have a job lined up in the US (who would, or could, in t…
This is pretty normal for most countries' visa processes. You often have to leave to renew a visa.
is that normal? in UK you can extend a visa or apply for ILR without leaving the country.