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Oura says it gets government demands for user data

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Re: Oura says it gets government demands for user data

#11

This is why although I don't love my Apple Watch, I'm not using anything else. It's very sensitive data and Apple is the only company worth trusting with it. They're not perfect but compared to others there's no competition.

Apple might be pretty good now. There's no assurance they always will be.

Re: Oura says it gets government demands for user data

#12

I was definitely interested in some sort of comprehensive sensor bundle for my healthcare. But every one of these devices demands some Android/Apple app, and shipping all my health data to basically non-HIPAA data brokers. Id be all over a local-only no-data-exfiltration health tracker. But the companies do NOT want to provide that. I, uh, guess, "go surveillance capitalism", for more choices?

If your concern is that the government may access the data, whether it's covered by HIPAA or not is irrelevant, because HIPAA allows government access. Though yes, it would still be better than non-HIPAA in general.

Re: Oura says it gets government demands for user data

#13

I was definitely interested in some sort of comprehensive sensor bundle for my healthcare. But every one of these devices demands some Android/Apple app, and shipping all my health data to basically non-HIPAA data brokers. Id be all over a local-only no-data-exfiltration health tracker. But the companies do NOT want to provide that. I, uh, guess, "go surveillance capitalism", for more choices?

HIPAA is completely irrelevant to any of this. Ours is technically HIPAA complaint because the data they process is not subject to HIPAA.

In overly simple terms, if insurance is not involved, then it’s not subject to HIPAA.

Re: Oura says it gets government demands for user data

#14

This is why although I don't love my Apple Watch, I'm not using anything else. It's very sensitive data and Apple is the only company worth trusting with it. They're not perfect but compared to others there's no competition.

Yeah there's no one I'd trust with my personal data except Apple. Their track record of refusing to bow down to the feds has been golden. 24 carat infact.

Re: Oura says it gets government demands for user data

#15
post #10

Oura doesn't even have GPS does it? Government can already get ALL your celltower locations without a warrant AND read all your emails and text messages that are over 6 months old, without a warrant

In a society where women are being prosecuted for medical procedures, menstrual data becomes very risky to have handed over.

Re: Oura says it gets government demands for user data

#16

This is why although I don't love my Apple Watch, I'm not using anything else. It's very sensitive data and Apple is the only company worth trusting with it. They're not perfect but compared to others there's no competition.

Yeah there's no one I'd trust with my personal data except Apple. Their track record of refusing to bow down to the feds has been golden. 24 carat infact.

In the US. Apple's policies are flexible when it comes to other nation states.

All it takes is a political sea change for E2EE to go away.

Apple already has to hand over a wealth of information when asked by the feds.

Re: Oura says it gets government demands for user data

#17
post #10

Oura doesn't even have GPS does it? Government can already get ALL your celltower locations without a warrant AND read all your emails and text messages that are over 6 months old, without a warrant

In a society where women are being prosecuted for medical procedures, menstrual data becomes very risky to have handed over.

Probably this yeah. Your location data can be obtained from other devices than your own, but this medical data cannot.

Re: Oura says it gets government demands for user data

#19
> the once-responsive Oura has not yet replied to any of my inquiries, or committed to releasing the numbers

Illinois has a tight biometric-privacy law [1]. I’d bet Oura isn’t particularly careful about prohibiting e.g. a Texas police department querying the protected information of Illinois residents.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biometric_Information_Privacy_...

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