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Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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Curious if anyone around here stayed on 4.6 (having a choice to use 4.7)

I went to 4.7, didn't have a choice, found it unsatisfactory, then Claude quietly added in the option to use 4.6, so I'm back on 4.6, and I'm not the only one in my company. I had far more hallucinations with 4.7 than 4.6. I'll try it again after a few more months for them to get it right, but 4.6 is what changed my mind on LLMs as a tool, and 4.7 felt like a step backwards, so for now I'm sticking with something tha…

Opus 4.7 went through a major degradation a few weeks ago (way more hallucinations and rabbit holes than usual). Anthropic fixed it. Give it another shot.

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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I switched from Anthropic to OpenAI after spending ~$40K in equivalent token costs using Claude over 3 months. I found Opus 4.7 to be slow and wasteful with token usage. It's shocking how inefficient it is with tasks like bash tool usage and web searching, delegating them to a dozen subagents only to get stuck and never return until you esc and intervene. That, in addition to all of the broken tooling Anthropic built…

Being able to mange context over long running sessions is a function of the harness, not the model. Are you using Claude Code with GPT5.5? Codex? piclaw? They’ll all have different context management strategies to let you keep going when you would otherwise have filled up context and be forced to stop.

It doesn’t matter how good the harness is if the model does a bad job of planning and continuing from long context. A good harness cannot overcome a weak model.

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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Our shop is forced to use Copilot on gov cloud, and it’s so useless I usually stick to manually coding. Its syntax is messy, it randomly combines lines together, flips order, or drops a couple tokens worth of output in the middle of a line, and for some reason it consistently drops the last line of every code block. I assume we’re getting a few versions back of GPT under the hood. But it does make me appreciate how t…

If you are talking about the Copilot built into vs code, that's not been my recent experience at all. Very capable in agent mode since gpt 5.4 came out.

Especially since gpt 5.5 it's on par with Opus 4.7 or Sonnet.

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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The comments I see recommending selective use of cheaper models doesn't match the reality I experience working in the industry. I have the constant threat hanging over my head of being fired if I don't churn out code quickly enough. I'm not willing to gamble with my livelyhood by using a less effective model. Saving money on tokens isn't something that's rewarded during performance reviews; particularly because it's…

Anyone (including ANTHROP\C) "recommending selective use of cheaper models" is spending costly human time (which costs more over time) on correcting the machine (which costs less over time). This is a bad trade.

In cost per line of code, we have verified this is always an error unless your time is worth less than the machine (unlikely unless you consider your time to have no cost rather than considering it as your hourly rate).

The worst thing for our productivity has been Claude Code or Claude Cowork taking a complex problem and turning around and writing bad instructions for dumb model agents then synthesizing the dumb answers into an orchestra of badness.

The single best fix for results-per-total-cost is to ensure it reads and thinks about whole content, not snippets, and thinks with the smartest model, not agents.

Agents should toil. Agents should neither think*, nor decide what to think about which itself is thinking.

* Agents should “think” like ants or bees or beavers think. Any human-like thinking, *especially* intuition-like thinking, should be thought by the best model available.

** Nobody should be “churning out code”. In a hierarchy of coders who translate detailed specs to some computer language, developers who write software that ships on a project timeline, and engineers who accomplish business goals, engineers should “churn out” engines structured for business outcomes.

Measured by that, the machine is leverage while reducing a variety of costs. At the same time, because most training data doesn't grok this, the machine doesn't grok it either. So it needs you to shape its toil.

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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It's the same phenomenon as when you learn a new vocabulary word you see it everywhere. People heard "Claude is nerfed" and now they see it everywhere, they notice failures a lot more than they would have otherwise. Doesn't matter that Claude is not, in fact, nerfed. Perception is powerful and most humans are not rational.

This account is an LLM-hype peddler, shilling for Anthropic (check comment history). If they say that Claude is not nerfed, then most likely it is, in fact, nerfed.

I wouldn't call correcting misinformation and FUD "peddling hype" or "shilling" but I suppose we are in a post-truth world, where if you push back against the anti-AI emotions and vibes with grounded facts, you must be a shill.

Anyways, please take your discourse of calling people you disagree with "shills" back to Reddit. I'd much rather engage with someone debating the merits of an argument.

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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For months, Employees had the option to choose claude code or copilot. Now they dont. Underlying model choice still has no restrictions. Opus 4.6 is by far the most popular. there's still big $$$ bills going anthropic's way.

I use copilot cli and I can pick Anthropic models. The Microsoft interface seems fine to me, and equivalent. Not sure what the big deal is.

Anthropic's Claude harness is much better than Copilot, i.e. the tools and instructions in each harness are different. Anthropic is just that much better (for claude models, likely an amount of co-development).

Personally, I looked into Copilot's prompt and saw things that made me put it down immediately to start working on my own. I'm now using OpenCode for reasons and I like it better than any Big Ai tool. Using OC with Qwen3.6-MoE (for context) and generally happy with the results.

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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How did you manage to do that? /model command returns only 4 choices for me: Opus 4.7, two Sonnet options and Haiku.

env var

This works, thanks :)

For anyone else who may want this, use: export ANTHROPIC_MODEL=claude-opus-4-6

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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Stay with 4.6 if you can, it is disabled (afaik) on vscode claude code extension. 4.7 IMO is around 10-20% worse at understanding your prompt intention. You need more effort to explain your intention clearer so it doesn't divert.

Same. 4.7 intelligence is significantly worse than 4.6 on ALL 3P Harnesses. So only on Claude Code and Anthropic API/Subscription you get decent performance but on every other Harness and/or Cloud Provider inference (Bedrock) it performs worse than 4.6 on almost every task. This is not just anecdotal, i've talked to many colleagues from AWS, Microsoft and so on and they all agree that something fishy is going on.

Never used 4.7 outside CC extension VSCode. TIL, will keep that in mind

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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Claude code gets >98% KV cache hits. It’s not reprocessing unless you let the cache go cold (5 minutes, which is annoyingly short).

Are you sure that hitting the cache mean you’re not paying for those tokens?

You pay, at 10% the price (in quota or dollars) for non-cached. See https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/about-claude/pricing

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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Feels about right. I've launched an internal demo of Claude Code and Deepseek on the same day and we burned through our monthly allowance for Claude in just over a week, with more than a half of that budget being spent in one day. With DS people are unable to go through that same amount of money in a month, not even close. With that Claude feels like an expensive toy, while DS is a shovel, purely because developers d…

I rage canceled Claude today. After 2 weeks of Claude getting progressively worse and worse, today was the final straw. I don't care if they have a phone app. The model is COMPLETE garbage after you subscribe long enough and they think they've "got you". I can't code on my phone if the model literally moves in the wrong direction and does the opposite of what I tell it to. If I wanted to make my code worse, I'd just…

When you say "code on your phone" ... you don't mean what I think you mean do you? Like, are you actually using your phone to make code commits?
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