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Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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Post by grassfedgeek » Sat, May 23, 2026, 12:55 PM UTC

efitz wrote: post #152

dyauspitr wrote: post #146

How to destroy the greatest country on earth.

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It will destroy the United States as a leading economy and superpower.

Think about it: China draws mainly on the talents of the best of its billion+ population. But America has had its pick of the best of the world's 8 billion people. Until now.

Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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Post by cmiles8 » Sat, May 23, 2026, 12:56 PM UTC

This is a bit extreme. On the other end of the spectrum the existing system is heavily abused and hard to defend. For example many if not most PERM applications in tech are a complete sham. Putting tiny job adverts burred deep in a newspaper hoping nobody applies to try and say there are no skilled workers in the US is just one example of current abuse of the system.

Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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Post by happytoexplain » Sat, May 23, 2026, 12:56 PM UTC

jfengel wrote: post #158

I hear "I'm not anti immigrant, I'm anti illegal immigrant" a lot. To which there is an easy solution: increase the number of legal immigrants we allow. Instead we're doing exactly the opposite, cutting down on legal immigration as well. Making it hard for me to believe that it was ever about illegal immigration at all.

In my experience, the phrase is just used to mean, "I don't hate immigrants, but..." (which, like the phrase "I'm not racist, but...", you are free to doubt case-by-case). I.e. it is not inherently inconsistent to apply the same disclaimer regarding a belief that legal immigration is too loose, too high, mismanaged, whatever; since that doesn't necessitate a belief that immigration as a concept is bad.

Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, May 23, 2026, 12:57 PM UTC

amazingamazing wrote: post #155

> From now on, an alien who is in the US temporarily and wants a Green Card must return to their home country to apply, except in extraordinary circumstances Whats the equivalent policy for other countries? Can you stay like you could prior to this?

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Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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Post by cogman10 » Sat, May 23, 2026, 12:57 PM UTC

So much of the US immigration process is built around punishing and exploiting. The primary reason for the strong border is allowing farms and construction companies to find cheap labor which can't complain about mistreatment.

It helps that a decent portion of the population hates and/or is fearful anyone different from themselves. That is what's allowed for these even more draconian and brutal measures.

Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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Post by georgemcbay » Sat, May 23, 2026, 12:58 PM UTC

jfengel wrote: post #158

I hear "I'm not anti immigrant, I'm anti illegal immigrant" a lot. To which there is an easy solution: increase the number of legal immigrants we allow. Instead we're doing exactly the opposite, cutting down on legal immigration as well. Making it hard for me to believe that it was ever about illegal immigration at all.

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Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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Post by kibwen » Sat, May 23, 2026, 12:59 PM UTC

jfengel wrote: post #158

I hear "I'm not anti immigrant, I'm anti illegal immigrant" a lot. To which there is an easy solution: increase the number of legal immigrants we allow. Instead we're doing exactly the opposite, cutting down on legal immigration as well. Making it hard for me to believe that it was ever about illegal immigration at all.

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Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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Post by romaaeterna » Sat, May 23, 2026, 1:00 PM UTC

jfengel wrote: post #158

I hear "I'm not anti immigrant, I'm anti illegal immigrant" a lot. To which there is an easy solution: increase the number of legal immigrants we allow. Instead we're doing exactly the opposite, cutting down on legal immigration as well. Making it hard for me to believe that it was ever about illegal immigration at all.

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Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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Post by scottyeager » Sat, May 23, 2026, 1:01 PM UTC

Refusing future applications to adjust status would be one thing (still wrong, in my opinion). The fact that they are canceling pending applications is simply evil. There will be so much unnecessary anguish and expense. I really feel for anybody who is now learning they will have to leave and wait years to come live in the US with their spouse, due to overstayed visas which were supposed to be forgiven under the status quo.

Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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Post by jimmydoe » Sat, May 23, 2026, 1:09 PM UTC

dyauspitr wrote: post #146

How to destroy the greatest country on earth.

There's no THE greatest country; every country can be great.

US&A has been the escape hatch for oppressive regime in China/Russia/... for many years, young people from there seek freedom in US, instead of fight for freedom in their own.

Individual freedom is great but collectively they made people who can't migrate have less and less freedom. Some expected US&A compensate that with trade, military and twitter, which all turned out to be disasters.

I'm sorry for anyone stuck in those processes, but for long term US&A giving up on Green card / dual citizenship is not necessarily a bad thing for the world.