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Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

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Re: Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

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> “Inside Spain, the consequences of indiscriminate IP blocking have become almost impossible to ignore,” NordVPN writes Too fucking right. It is beyond tiresome to fire up the laptop and wonder whether I'll need a VPN to access GitHub today

When the blocks happen, does it take GitHub with it for you? I'm on Vodafone (in Spain) and it's just a few Cloudflare IPs that get blocked during the matches, never had GitHub unavailable, as Microsoft doesn't use Cloudflare for GitHub, AFAIK.

Re: Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

#22

> “Inside Spain, the consequences of indiscriminate IP blocking have become almost impossible to ignore,” NordVPN writes Too fucking right. It is beyond tiresome to fire up the laptop and wonder whether I'll need a VPN to access GitHub today

When the blocks happen, does it take GitHub with it for you? I'm on Vodafone (in Spain) and it's just a few Cloudflare IPs that get blocked during the matches, never had GitHub unavailable, as Microsoft doesn't use Cloudflare for GitHub, AFAIK.

Cloudflare seems to be the most common victim, but I've seen Fastly get banned out as well (which seems to be what GitHub uses as their CDN in the EU)

Re: Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

#23
fantastic work.

PSA: if you still think its not the time to fight for your rights for the status quo in privacy you will come to regret it. If you are the type of person who reads this type of news and thinks: "cool the system is working, it'll sort itself out" you will come to regret it.

you will need to become more active or it will be taken away

Re: Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

#24

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When the blocks happen, does it take GitHub with it for you? I'm on Vodafone (in Spain) and it's just a few Cloudflare IPs that get blocked during the matches, never had GitHub unavailable, as Microsoft doesn't use Cloudflare for GitHub, AFAIK.

Cloudflare seems to be the most common victim, but I've seen Fastly get banned out as well (which seems to be what GitHub uses as their CDN in the EU)

AFAIK, it's literally exclusively Cloudflare for me, never seen anything else (IP) banned, just the good old DNS-based blocking for some other crap, but maybe it's because of my ISP. What ISP are you on? They all seem to be responding and doing this differently.

Re: Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

#25

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That is why they blocked the whole internet. You can't avoid a block by changing your address if the whole internet is blocked.

Who blocked the whole internet? Doesn't happen here in Spain, which is the context for this submission, is "blocked the whole internet" what they do in the UK?

> Doesn't happen here in Spain

Yeah, it does. They banned an unreasonably large range of Cloudflare CDN IPs pretty regularly during LaLiga matches, effectively blocking big chunks of the internet from Spain. It has gained fairly broad notice across the world in the last year[1]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-geGEYEw7g

Re: Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

#26

fantastic work. PSA: if you still think its not the time to fight for your rights for the status quo in privacy you will come to regret it. If you are the type of person who reads this type of news and thinks: "cool the system is working, it'll sort itself out" you will come to regret it. you will need to become more active or it will be taken away

Literally it'll sort itself out, as the bans are unconstitutional and more, law just takes long time and we have other shit to sort out before starting to panic about 3-5 Cloudflare IPs getting banned for 2 hours a week...

Re: Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

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Who blocked the whole internet? Doesn't happen here in Spain, which is the context for this submission, is "blocked the whole internet" what they do in the UK?

> Doesn't happen here in Spain Yeah, it does. They banned an unreasonably large range of Cloudflare CDN IPs pretty regularly during LaLiga matches, effectively blocking big chunks of the internet from Spain. It has gained fairly broad notice across the world in the last year[1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-geGEYEw7g

Haha, what? Are you going in circles? We're talking about the La Liga matches, that's the context of this conversation :P

And no, "the whole internet" does not get blocked, a handful of Cloudflare IPs get blocked, so any neighbors using those IPs too, are also unavailable.

Maybe it's just me, but some IPs on Cloudflare being blocked isn't "blocked the whole internet" and if you it is, I suggest you start visiting more websites than the 1-2 American ones you're stuck in seemingly.

Re: Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

#28

I'll repeat what I said the last time about laliga... > Foot egg is so ingrained into the countrymen that nothing else matters. > There wouldn't be so much of a forced monopoly if more people would stop watching games and stand up to laliga. > Complaining on the internet every time laliga shuts down github etc isn't going to change anything, we can't solve your problems, the change has to come from within. Props to t…

> There wouldn't be so much of a forced monopoly if more people would stop watching games

I don't think giving up one's national sport is really the right response here. We should absolutely be able to enjoy sports without bowing down to regulatory-capture-by-former-government-ministers

Re: Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

#29
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You can't sue a court in a court for doing court stuff. Courts are superuser. They can do anything they want to. The recourse is vetting people before they become judges.

This seems dysfunctional and a API for institutional subversion. If you can subvert the machinery that creates judges, you can basically take over a democracy without having any way to fix that except for institutional repair and waiting out the working lifespan of judges (which can be 1.5 generations)

That is correct. It's why the Republican party went so hard to prevent any non-Republican judges from joining the supreme court over the last 1.5 generations.

Re: Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

#30
post #18

Finally, some common sense in this utterly absurd situation. I'm so glad this year's "fútbol" season ends this weekend. AFAIK, they don't break the Internet for Segunda División matches (yet!).

Oh boy do I have news for you; they're thinking of doing the same for other sports now too, not just football :) At least the blocks only been for a small amount of Cloudflare IPs, but still sucks big time.

Sigh. As if I had not enough reasons to hate professional sports ...
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