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Bun support is now limited and deprecated

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Re: Bun support is now limited and deprecated

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GuB-42 wrote: post #358
b40d-48b2-979e wrote: post #149

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primeagen's view He's a content creator on youtube, a celebrity, not a serious programmer.

He was a software engineer at Netflix before turning to content creation. It is also clear watching his videos that he knows his thing. As an experienced programmer myself, I find his commentary to be way too relatable to be just bluff. He may not be Don Knuth, Linus Torvalds, John Carmack or Fabrice Bellard. But he is definitely a serious programmer. That he livestreams doesn't make him less of a programmer.

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Re: Bun support is now limited and deprecated

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Post by scrollaway »

incr_me wrote: post #433
vinyl7 wrote: post #392

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Probably a lie tbh

Why is it so hard to believe that Jarred Sumner, a self-described "Thiel Fellow and a high school dropout", had values aligned with Anthropic's before Bun was approached for acquisition? It's not like Claude was an asteroid that crashed into Eden.

Wtf is your problem with high school dropouts exactly?

Re: Bun support is now limited and deprecated

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Post by cybercatgurrl »

gkfasdfasdf wrote: post #406
getcrunk wrote: post #156

It’s not like they are discriminating on someone’s race or religion. If they don’t want a major vibe coded surface, do they even have to defend that? It’s part their “artistic” license as developers. Or did we forget software inherently is opinionated

Yes, it’s actually similar to discriminating based on race or religion, in the sense that it’s an arbitrary, meaningless criterion to discriminate on. If the Rust Bun port is better in every measurable way — passes all tests, has the same performance or better, and fixes existing bugs — then who cares what language it’s written in or how it was implemented? The point is that it’s higher quality. If you don’t trust th…

people don’t care if it’s good. they only care it’s made with AI so they can signal their moral superiority. hence the derogatory term slop that is paraded around like it’s the way to win an argument

Re: Bun support is now limited and deprecated

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Post by nicce »

alloysmila wrote: post #523

Most people who use/used bun have never read bun's code. Then why does it matter who/what wrote the code? And to be honest bun's zig codebase (especially in the early days) was neither "clean" nor "idiomatic" but the tool worked and people used it.

> Then why does it matter who/what wrote the code?

You trust for someones expertice.

Re: Bun support is now limited and deprecated

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Post by cybercatgurrl »

wiseowise wrote: post #502
irishcoffee wrote: post #388

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I don't have the emotional energy to care, actually. This is actually fascinating. How does my opinion matter? Should I join all the socials (this is my only form of social media) and stand on my soapbox and shout into the void? Do I need to express I care so others know I care and have picked a side and have opionions on evrything? I do not care. My opinion does not matter. I can scream into all the voids. I can vir…

> I do not care. My opinion does not matter. I can scream into all the voids. I can virtue signal until the heat death of the universe/until I die, it matters not. I don't have the desire to spend the limited emotional bandwidth on giving a flaming fuck about the world around me. I'm not that arrogant or self-centered to think anyone else cares. “Learned helplessness” himself graced us with his presence.

if you call picking your battles wisely “learned helplessness” then yea

Re: Bun support is now limited and deprecated

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Post by cybercatgurrl »

baublet wrote: post #151
johnfn wrote: post #73

This decision seems to based more in politics than engineering. Have you observed Bun have more segfaults, OOMs, etc, since the Rust rewrite? Have you noticed more security vulnerabilities? Have you seen more bugs? (Of course you haven't, the rewrite hasn't even landed yet.) It seems that you are making this decision because you get a bad feeling when thinking about AI involvement. I don't select my engineering tools…

Yeah this is a cringe way to weigh in on something completely unrelated to your project. Who cares if some random package supports Bun? Compat was always on Bun, anyway.

it’s a way to win supporters and make noise. everyone is taking sides

Re: Bun support is now limited and deprecated

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Post by cybercatgurrl »

LelouBil wrote: post #415

I don't know how to feel about the Bun rewrite. On one hand, it seems very scary to me, having most of your codebase unreviewed. On the other hand, it passes their tests with few regressions from what I heard. Maybe it's just because I don't have enough experience there, but I wouldn't trust my tests to this degree and completely rely on them without reading the code.

congratulations, in a sea of politics and ideology you have a sensible take. i think a wait and see approach is reasonable here

Re: Bun support is now limited and deprecated

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Post by rldjbpin »

bun was never the recommended js runtime when they first announced its need for yt support [1]. in fact they recommended deno over all, even regular node.

depending on the environment of choice, these runtimes are only used to bypass certain blockers. it is not that deep.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45898407

Re: Bun support is now limited and deprecated

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Post by cybercatgurrl »

kibwen wrote: post #355
GlacierFox wrote: post #350

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Yea for real. Like how is it possible to even formulate that as anywhere near the subject matter in any way, shape or form :S

People addicted to chatbots appear to be suffering from cognitive atrophy.

insult people you disagree with. smart approach
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