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Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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Thus does kind of beg the question: If developers are being laid off because AI is better/faster/cheaper or makes all their people 10x or whatever fig leaf, what happens if the required tooling ends up being more expensive? From the investor’s point of view is the drag of employee costs better or worse than a ballooning expense item?

"AI" is just a cover for laying ppl off and saving cost. But the pendulum will swing the the other way and the companies will realise that knowledgeable ppl are still required to generate and utilize the generated code. No serious company can run with vibe-coded apps generated by laymen.

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

#133

So, snippet from the article says the following: > I understand that Microsoft is planning to remove most of its Claude Code licenses and push many of its developers to use Copilot CLI instead. While Claude Code has been a popular addition, it has also undermined Microsoft’s new GitHub Copilot CLI coding tool — a command line version of GitHub Copilot that runs outside of development apps like Visual Studio Code. And…

I don’t think people read the article, I didn’t until I saw your comment. The article feels like clickbait tbh.

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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The current thinking is automated agents is what turns this from an industry in the tens of billions to a multi trillion dollar one. So yes you are right on the money, agents stimulate demand for this thing they've built.

"The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy"

I didn't know that one. Loosely said to be Oscar Wilde.

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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The way coding agent work is fantastically wasteful. All the megabytes of code are processed over and over and over, sometimes withing just one session. There are papers describing KV cache precomputation for commonly used documents (e.g. KVLink), but, of course, it's not a priority for model providers: they'd rather sell you more tokens, also they would rather get to AGI/ASI first than optimize usage of existing mod…

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Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy"

I didn't know that one. Loosely said to be Oscar Wilde.

Delivered in the voice of Lenard Lemoy to millions of GenX during their formative years.

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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post #59

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> To be fair, the cost of software development has always been fairly unpredictable. Yes, but in a "oops this is gonna take another two months to finish" kind of way, not the "oops this is the 12th time this month 8 developers have burned $2K in tokens in a single day and no one really knows how it happened" kind of way.

We’re all being given belt-loaded machine guns and tossed on to Planet K. We used to pay for the salaries of soldiers, now we have an Ammo Budget.

A belt loaded spinwheel machine gun, where there are some chances the next bullet is a dummy round, or goes in the wrong direction. And everytime you reload a new soldier is in charge of the gun

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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post #29

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At the enterprise level though, its going to be hard to want to use a service in which costs are not predictable, and keeping those costs under control requires employee training.

There's no fucking training to mitigate a slot machine.

Games like Diablo are basically a whole bunch of slot machines, and there are strategies you can follow to optimize your run.
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