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Re: Don't just paste the AI at me

#61
Assertion: recipient owes the person asking something.

Authenticity earned through proof of work: invest your neurons and time to demonstrate fealty! Context switch for me!

Buried lede: much of the time the person asking could do all the work suggested.

This is like LMGTFY but backwards, it shames the person whose time is being asked for.

Re: Don't just paste the AI at me

#62
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a bit aggressive to send someone mindless AI chatspam. We should consider such behavior a direct affront. Wtf is with this excuse-making for abandoning the bare minimum of professional competency?

I agree with the sentiment, but this is not something I can send my colleagues. You can be annoyed and right, and still avoid being crass.

Perhaps this falls into "how to have hard conversations" bucket?

Re: Don't just paste the AI at me

#63

I wonder if we gathered all of the "don't quote the ai" people and all of the lmgtfy people in the same place, would they cancel out? Like matter/anti-matter annihilation?

No, because both positions boil down to "don't waste my time by refusing to think".

Re: Don't just paste the AI at me

#64
I've always been fascinated that some people don't seem to have any email "voice" - they just can't translate email text into human emotional impact. So they write super abrupt emails, things they would never say in real life, totally different to their actual personality. It's almost like a distinct form of autism. Meanwhile I'm almost the opposite extreme - I can't hit send on something unless I've finessed it until it sounds exactly like how I would communicate in person. It takes me ages to write my emails.

I'm starting to get a feeling there is a phenomenon like this with AI - some people just genuinely don't hear the AI "voice" at all. They really can't distinguish why sending AI written text is going to impact the person at the other end. It's going to be an interesting ride as these people start using AI and are completely baffled why people are offended by their perfectly reasonable responses.

Re: Don't just paste the AI at me

#65

I was on a forum that had one member who is very knowledable on the subject of the forum. But now he...only ever responds with "I asked gemini your question, here's the answer:", and it's a real shame. His online person has become totally hollowed out. (These aren't like newb question threads, these are conversational topic threads). I think he doesn't know or care how valuable his point of view was. -_- Some communi…

Maybe reply with a different answer from a different AI and start dueling AI's. I will always prefer the old trusty Infobot [1] src [2] over any of the current AI's and their fancy schmansy algorithms.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infobot

[2] - https://infobot.sourceforge.net/download.html

Re: Don't just paste the AI at me

#66
This really depends on context. Sure, if you're responding to a forum post or StackOverflow question with nothing but the LLM output, then I agree with this. On the other hand, where I've done this at work, it's because I and some peers _together_ are trying to understand something (e.g., debugging), and Claude has some potentially useful input, but I'm not actually sure. And I'm looking to collaborate on interpreting the output together to see if there's anything useful. (Folks can decide to ignore it if it doesn't seem promising.) As another comment[1] said, pasting the output as-is contains other useful metadata.

There are also cases where I think I know the answer, and I ask the AI, and it produces a more complete answer than I would but I know enough to assess it. It seems like a waste of time to paraphrase the whole thing. That's the "Here's how Claude phrased it and I can attest that it's right" case.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48243331

Re: Don't just paste the AI at me

#69
I’d much, much prefer people were honest about AI answers and text and had the decency to cite it explicitly when they use it.

What I hate far worse than what this article complains about is just blatant AI writing in articles, comments, video narration you name it.

Way more insidious, way bigger problem!

Re: Don't just paste the AI at me

#70

I was on a forum that had one member who is very knowledable on the subject of the forum. But now he...only ever responds with "I asked gemini your question, here's the answer:", and it's a real shame. His online person has become totally hollowed out. (These aren't like newb question threads, these are conversational topic threads). I think he doesn't know or care how valuable his point of view was. -_- Some communi…

Some people are lost to AI fascination quickly because they're curious and maybe a little lonely, or at least isolated. Suddenly, they have a oracle that can endlessly tickle their curiosity (accurately or not) and follow them as deep into discussion as they can imagine, without ever growing tired or annoyed. Unfortunately, in many ways, there's a lot of overlap between those people and those that had once made great…

> Some people are lost to AI fascination quickly because they're curious and maybe a little lonely, or at least isolated.

There's a scene or an arc in Mr. Robot where the FBI agent behaves this way with her Alexa. I've also heard/read tales of parents realizing just how much their kids interact with Alexa. It's easy to understand how having this oracle as you stated would be interesting to interact with if that's truly what it was. However, knowing how these LLMs work, I find it utterly uninteresting for that kind of use. Knowing how much they "hallucinate" just makes me not interested at all. I've had enough real life interactions with people that I have come to use the term "shitstory" when the person just clearly makes stuff up as they continue to talk about something they don't really know about. My favorite is when it's something I know a lot about while several people are listening and engaged with shitstory totally oblivious to the bullshit. Why would I want to do that with a service I'm expected to pay for?

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