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Re: Bun support is now limited and deprecated

#11
Honestly I hope agentic AI ushers in a new age of minimal-SBOM software. I myself am moving all of my projects towards nearly 100% vanilla where possible. For example, golang. Why use [insert web framework] when you can just use vanilla for 99% of web apps?

There's something really satisfying about a go binary with minimal dependencies running in a busybox docker container.

Re: Bun support is now limited and deprecated

#12
I understand their decision. How could the maintainers understand their codebase if most of it was not directly written by them?

It is impossible to review the entire rewritten codebase. There are just too many lines of code, 1 million lines to be exact [1].

[1]: https://github.com/oven-sh/bun/pull/30412

Re: Bun support is now limited and deprecated

#13
post #11

Honestly I hope agentic AI ushers in a new age of minimal-SBOM software. I myself am moving all of my projects towards nearly 100% vanilla where possible. For example, golang. Why use [insert web framework] when you can just use vanilla for 99% of web apps? There's something really satisfying about a go binary with minimal dependencies running in a busybox docker container.

Frameworks and ORMs were the pre-agentic AI "iron man suit".

I'm quite liking how good Claude Code Opus is at Rust + sqlx (raw SQL with type safety) + actix-web.

Re: Bun support is now limited and deprecated

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post #12

I understand their decision. How could the maintainers understand their codebase if most of it was not directly written by them? It is impossible to review the entire rewritten codebase. There are just too many lines of code, 1 million lines to be exact [1]. [1]: https://github.com/oven-sh/bun/pull/30412

Right. I now have responsibility for rather large codebases where the person who generated it with agentic tools (I'd say it's better than pure 'vibe coding') barely understands how it works. This is okay for unimportant parts of the codebase, but completely unacceptable for a critical piece of infrastructure where it really needs to be well thought out.

Re: Bun support is now limited and deprecated

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Reason #2 is purely speculative. It’s disappointing to see technical decisions being made on such grounds.

What part of the recent history of vibe coded projects has not resulted in low quality, bug laden code? Dismissing this a "purely speculative" is just like dismissing the weather report as "purely speculative" when deciding what to wear in the morning.

There is quite the selection bias going on here... you aren't hearing about the successful projects.

Re: Bun support is now limited and deprecated

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Reason #2 is purely speculative. It’s disappointing to see technical decisions being made on such grounds.

All dependency management is speculative. You've got to hedge your bets that the dependency is reliable and fit for purpose. It is reasonable to view Bun's recent choices as increasing the risk associated with depending on it.

Very much agree. Until the vibe-coded version has been fully audited and profiled to perform, within reasonable tolerances, as well as the original code base, it feels like a bad idea to support it downstream or use it in production.

Re: Bun support is now limited and deprecated

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What part of the recent history of vibe coded projects has not resulted in low quality, bug laden code? Dismissing this a "purely speculative" is just like dismissing the weather report as "purely speculative" when deciding what to wear in the morning.

There is quite the selection bias going on here... you aren't hearing about the successful projects.

Care to list them then? I have yet to see a successful vibe coded project

Re: Bun support is now limited and deprecated

#19
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What part of the recent history of vibe coded projects has not resulted in low quality, bug laden code? Dismissing this a "purely speculative" is just like dismissing the weather report as "purely speculative" when deciding what to wear in the morning.

There is quite the selection bias going on here... you aren't hearing about the successful projects.

People love to brag about using AI to get work done. If anything I expect the successful projects to be overrepresented.
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