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U.S. researchers face new restrictions on publishing with foreign collaborators

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Re: U.S. researchers face new restrictions on publishing with foreign collaborators

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Post by epistasis »

platinumrad wrote: post #6
munk-a wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unclear arbitrary rules are the best way to rapidly induce a chilling effect. If the enemy is the science happening then a lack of clarity is a highly effective tactic.

I genuinely don't understand how the titans of industry who support the Republican party don't understand that science is the foundation on which their entire fortunes are built.

Their fortunes are already built. They have shifted into defensive posture. They don't care about enabling more people to do discovery, that actually puts their position at great risk of disruption. What they want is to have very little innovation, and be able to capture the innovation that squeaks through.

Re: U.S. researchers face new restrictions on publishing with foreign collaborators

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Post by SubiculumCode »

"In response to Inside Higher Ed’s questions about Science’s reporting, an NIH spokesperson emailed a statement Thursday that referenced just one set of grant programs: the Institutional Development Award (IDeA). NIH’s website says the awards go to Puerto Rico and 23 states that “historically have had low levels of NIH funding."

"The recent update to IDeA grantees was a clarification of longstanding policy, not a new directive,” the spokesperson said. “IDeA program funding has always been restricted to U.S.-based institutions and entities, with foreign institutions, non-domestic components of U.S. organizations, and all foreign components explicitly prohibited. This reflects Congress’s intent that IDeA funds be used exclusively for research capacity building within the United States—and specifically within eligible IDeA states and territories. NIH’s statement didn’t mention any other grant programs or answer multiple written questions.” [1]

[1] https://www.insidehighered.com/news/quick-takes/2026/05/22/r...

Re: U.S. researchers face new restrictions on publishing with foreign collaborators

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Post by SubiculumCode »

SubiculumCode wrote: post #22

"In response to Inside Higher Ed’s questions about Science’s reporting, an NIH spokesperson emailed a statement Thursday that referenced just one set of grant programs: the Institutional Development Award (IDeA). NIH’s website says the awards go to Puerto Rico and 23 states that “historically have had low levels of NIH funding." "The recent update to IDeA grantees was a clarification of longstanding policy, not a new…

I do not know yet if this was NIH tricky wording to insidehighered.com, or if it is really restricted to this one small program.

edit: that said, from my experience, and some reporting, foreign contracts (e.g. a foreign collaborating researcher) have been regularly denied in the new NIH.

Re: U.S. researchers face new restrictions on publishing with foreign collaborators

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Post by gwbas1c »

BeetleB wrote: post #2

This could be understandable if some rationale was provided, but it's worse than that: > Neither agency has publicly issued new formal guidance describing these requirements. Instead, officials are informing grantees individually, leaving researchers confused and concerned. They've not even made it official. They're just randomly flagging.

See my top-level comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48238900

Re: U.S. researchers face new restrictions on publishing with foreign collaborators

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Post by NooneAtAll3 »

platinumrad wrote: post #6
munk-a wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unclear arbitrary rules are the best way to rapidly induce a chilling effect. If the enemy is the science happening then a lack of clarity is a highly effective tactic.

I genuinely don't understand how the titans of industry who support the Republican party don't understand that science is the foundation on which their entire fortunes are built.

if you "genuinely" want to understand, start considering the opposite - what is the easiest way to defend policy like this?

"science with outside helps the other side" - done.

Current administration sees US as losing its positions, so the main answer is to close the leaks that feed its opponents with US effort

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Post by loudmax »

mnky9800n wrote: post #3

I wonder when the trump administration will ever decide if it wants to Be isolationist or global imperialist.

Being isolationist or global imperialist implies articulating different strategies and values.

This is an administration that has neither of those.

Re: U.S. researchers face new restrictions on publishing with foreign collaborators

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Post by barbazoo »

platinumrad wrote: post #6
munk-a wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unclear arbitrary rules are the best way to rapidly induce a chilling effect. If the enemy is the science happening then a lack of clarity is a highly effective tactic.

I genuinely don't understand how the titans of industry who support the Republican party don't understand that science is the foundation on which their entire fortunes are built.

But it isn't required in order for them to get richer at this point.

Re: U.S. researchers face new restrictions on publishing with foreign collaborators

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Post by dghlsakjg »

gwbas1c wrote: post #25

This happens when a country is preparing to go to war. It's what happened with nuclear research around the start of the Manhattan project.

The US is currently at war by all definitions except a declaration of war.
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