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Re: U.S. researchers face new restrictions on publishing with foreign collaborators

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This could be understandable if some rationale was provided, but it's worse than that:

> Neither agency has publicly issued new formal guidance describing these requirements. Instead, officials are informing grantees individually, leaving researchers confused and concerned.

They've not even made it official. They're just randomly flagging.

Re: U.S. researchers face new restrictions on publishing with foreign collaborators

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post #2

This could be understandable if some rationale was provided, but it's worse than that: > Neither agency has publicly issued new formal guidance describing these requirements. Instead, officials are informing grantees individually, leaving researchers confused and concerned. They've not even made it official. They're just randomly flagging.

Unclear arbitrary rules are the best way to rapidly induce a chilling effect.

If the enemy is the science happening then a lack of clarity is a highly effective tactic.

Re: U.S. researchers face new restrictions on publishing with foreign collaborators

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post #2

This could be understandable if some rationale was provided, but it's worse than that: > Neither agency has publicly issued new formal guidance describing these requirements. Instead, officials are informing grantees individually, leaving researchers confused and concerned. They've not even made it official. They're just randomly flagging.

Unclear arbitrary rules are the best way to rapidly induce a chilling effect. If the enemy is the science happening then a lack of clarity is a highly effective tactic.

I genuinely don't understand how the titans of industry who support the Republican party don't understand that science is the foundation on which their entire fortunes are built.

Re: U.S. researchers face new restrictions on publishing with foreign collaborators

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unclear arbitrary rules are the best way to rapidly induce a chilling effect. If the enemy is the science happening then a lack of clarity is a highly effective tactic.

I genuinely don't understand how the titans of industry who support the Republican party don't understand that science is the foundation on which their entire fortunes are built.

Because science is an abstraction for ann incredibly wide range of human activity some of which benefits industrial applications and some that doesn’t.

Re: U.S. researchers face new restrictions on publishing with foreign collaborators

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unclear arbitrary rules are the best way to rapidly induce a chilling effect. If the enemy is the science happening then a lack of clarity is a highly effective tactic.

I genuinely don't understand how the titans of industry who support the Republican party don't understand that science is the foundation on which their entire fortunes are built.

They already have that fortune. So, they dont care and dont have to care. Moreover, someone else using science to create fortune is just another competitor and a threat to said fortune.

Re: U.S. researchers face new restrictions on publishing with foreign collaborators

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unclear arbitrary rules are the best way to rapidly induce a chilling effect. If the enemy is the science happening then a lack of clarity is a highly effective tactic.

I genuinely don't understand how the titans of industry who support the Republican party don't understand that science is the foundation on which their entire fortunes are built.

It benefited them in the past, that allowed them to build up their fortunes. Bill Gates, for example, is now a big holder of farmland. Science allows others to build up fortunes that challenge theirs, and hurts the stasis in which they become gilded aristocracy.

Lowering their taxes while burning everything to the ground benefits them now.

Re: U.S. researchers face new restrictions on publishing with foreign collaborators

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I wonder when the trump administration will ever decide if it wants to Be isolationist or global imperialist.

It's a decent bet that they are truly foolish. I've said this before. If the administration isn't acting as agents of a hostile nation trying to destroy America from within and scuttle its global leadership, they're doing a great job acting like it.

Short of them just turning a nuke on a large city, I can't think of better ways to harm America without fomenting an actual uprising than what they're doing to us today.

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