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The spread of Christianity, from antiquity until today, on an animated map

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Re: The spread of Christianity, from antiquity until today, on an animated map

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The most depressing thing of all is when ppl encounter "bootstrapping" and only see "control"

What do you mean? There is a clear phase in our history which was long and no progress was made "Dark age". In that time religion already existed right? So what was the speciality of christianity apparently bootstrapping everything else? You could only be religious if you had resources to do so. Could have been filled with something else instead. Napoleon wrote somewere (i read that in a museum) that education is nce…

> There is a clear phase in our history which was long and no progress was made "Dark age".

The Dark Ages are kind of a myth. The Eastern Roman Empire (aka. Byzantine Empire) existed through the whole time period up to the beginning of the Renaissance. And while some parts of Western Europe were "dark" (mainly due to Viking and Islamic invasions), Western Europe wasn't and isn't the whole world.

Re: The spread of Christianity, from antiquity until today, on an animated map

#43

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I was referring to the analysis of Christianity's spread and evolution as amazing. I was not making a subjective judgment about Christianity itself.

Yes i know. I still think its depressing. Perhaps we use the sentiment differently? Like the spread of the black death? I would say its depressing how fast and easy it spread.

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Re: The spread of Christianity, from antiquity until today, on an animated map

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What blew me away was the proliferation of the Church of the East. I never knew Christianity had that much of a foothold in Asia. I wonder if geographically it appears more significant due to that region’s sparse population?

No, it's because your education is western-centric and Islamic invasions took over the east. Eastern Christians have been subjected to genocide at the hands of Muslims for 1300 years.

Edit - really, someone is asking for a citation that the Islamic conquests happened? Next should ask for a citation that the sky is blue...

This is basic world history, like the discovery of the new world, Alexander the Great's conquests or the Roman empire...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Muslim_conquests

And yes, it happened over 1300 years ago, the first decisive battle was the Battle of Yarmuk, year 636 CE.

Re: The spread of Christianity, from antiquity until today, on an animated map

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It is not fully correct because St Thomas, who was one of the twelve disciples landed in India and martyred here in India and that's why we have A large autonomous branch, known as the Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church (or Indian Orthodox Church), tracing its roots to St. Thomas the Apostle and has its headquarters in Kottayam, Kerala. We in India just call it Syrian Orthodox church. That part is not shown in the vide…

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Re: The spread of Christianity, from antiquity until today, on an animated map

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The most depressing thing of all is when ppl encounter "bootstrapping" and only see "control"

What do you mean? There is a clear phase in our history which was long and no progress was made "Dark age". In that time religion already existed right? So what was the speciality of christianity apparently bootstrapping everything else? You could only be religious if you had resources to do so. Could have been filled with something else instead. Napoleon wrote somewere (i read that in a museum) that education is nce…

> But religion is primarily for control of the people. Thats why you see a lot of rules in the bible. Like paying 5 silver for raping a woman and having to take her as abride.

well, now you're just revealing that you don't understand the religion of Christianity at all

Re: The spread of Christianity, from antiquity until today, on an animated map

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean? There is a clear phase in our history which was long and no progress was made "Dark age". In that time religion already existed right? So what was the speciality of christianity apparently bootstrapping everything else? You could only be religious if you had resources to do so. Could have been filled with something else instead. Napoleon wrote somewere (i read that in a museum) that education is nce…

> There is a clear phase in our history which was long and no progress was made "Dark age". The Dark Ages are kind of a myth. The Eastern Roman Empire (aka. Byzantine Empire) existed through the whole time period up to the beginning of the Renaissance. And while some parts of Western Europe were "dark" (mainly due to Viking and Islamic invasions), Western Europe wasn't and isn't the whole world.

The invention of the "dark ages" is really interesting, and afaik it was created in order to create a "this time it's different" sense of ahistoricity. Very similar to the "year zero" idea in communism, and even the current AI hype cycle.

Re: The spread of Christianity, from antiquity until today, on an animated map

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was referring to the analysis of Christianity's spread and evolution as amazing. I was not making a subjective judgment about Christianity itself.

Yes i know. I still think its depressing. Perhaps we use the sentiment differently? Like the spread of the black death? I would say its depressing how fast and easy it spread.

It's a bit disingenius to equate spread of a religion to a disease.

Re: The spread of Christianity, from antiquity until today, on an animated map

#49
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It's even more interesting when you think about Christianity not as a clear category, but as a cloud of practices, beliefs and institutions in a broader family of religious patterns. Mircea Eliade asks how Christianity reinterpreted sacred history, myth, salvation. What does Christianity do with motifs older than itself, such as paradise, rebirth, sacrifice? In A History of Religious Ideas [0], he treats the emergenc…

Also spent the whole middle ages rewriting history and erasing the knowledge they did not like, so I am not that enthusiastic about it

Re: The spread of Christianity, from antiquity until today, on an animated map

#50
post #4

What blew me away was the proliferation of the Church of the East. I never knew Christianity had that much of a foothold in Asia. I wonder if geographically it appears more significant due to that region’s sparse population?

No, it's because your education is western-centric and Islamic invasions took over the east. Eastern Christians have been subjected to genocide at the hands of Muslims for 1300 years. Edit - really, someone is asking for a citation that the Islamic conquests happened? Next should ask for a citation that the sky is blue... This is basic world history, like the discovery of the new world, Alexander the Great's conquest…

Not a lot different from what the Christians did to non believers in the West, really.
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