So, the takeaway for US AT&T customers is that they may potentially roll out LTE on a band that the Nexus 4 supports, but it hasn't yet?
Nexus 4 Includes Support for LTE on Band 4
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#52So, the takeaway for US AT&T customers is that they may potentially roll out LTE on a band that the Nexus 4 supports, but it hasn't yet?
I'd be surprised if they did- why use more bands when you're doing OK with the ones you use now?
The possible win is when T-Mobile eventually rolls out LTE. They are likely to use Band 4... but AFAIK haven't announced when they're ever going to roll it out.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4822559
I blogged about this yesterday. If that's their plan, it helps to occasionally have them in stock. But they've had none in stock, no preorders, nothing, for 10 days now. In fact, it's only been in stock for 30 minutes ever. False scarcity is a great marketing technique. Ask Apple and Nintendo. Key word is " false ".
In the mean-time, operators are re-selling it with a huge price increase. In the UK, Google Play's price is £239.00.
O2 sells it at £399.99 with no contract[1].
Carphone Warehouse, £389.95 with no contract[2].
In the same shops, the iPhone 5 is basically the same price than on the Apple store.
[1]: http://shop.o2.co.uk/mobile_phone/pay_monthly/init/LG/Nexus_... [2]: http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/LG_NE...
EDIT: It's not a counter argument, just adding more infos to the subject of pricing.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Nexus 4 has a sealed battery. Upgrading will be a bit tougher.
It's sealed, but screws on the bottom make it easy to replace.
Not the battery, the battery is glued on to the case with a good amount of adhesive which requires a lot of prying.
Source: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+4+Teardown/11781/2
Re: Nexus 4 Includes Support for LTE on Band 4
#55So, the takeaway for US AT&T customers is that they may potentially roll out LTE on a band that the Nexus 4 supports, but it hasn't yet?
I'd be surprised if they did- why use more bands when you're doing OK with the ones you use now? The possible win is when T-Mobile eventually rolls out LTE. They are likely to use Band 4... but AFAIK haven't announced when they're ever going to roll it out.
T-Mobile is turning on LTE in 2013. It looks like the Nexus 4 was designed to be ready for it.
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#56Glorious news this morning. Enabled it on my Nexus 4 with Telus and I can confirm that this works absolutely fine. However, I'm quite curious about the battery life impact. So far the N4 isn't a champion in this category. Adding LTE..
Presumably, since the n4 has no a antenna for late, your reception is going to be bad, so it may end up pinging towers all day and killing your battery.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
I blogged about this yesterday. If that's their plan, it helps to occasionally have them in stock. But they've had none in stock, no preorders, nothing, for 10 days now. In fact, it's only been in stock for 30 minutes ever. False scarcity is a great marketing technique. Ask Apple and Nintendo. Key word is " false ".
In the mean-time, operators are re-selling it with a huge price increase. In the UK, Google Play's price is £239.00. O2 sells it at £399.99 with no contract[1]. Carphone Warehouse, £389.95 with no contract[2]. In the same shops, the iPhone 5 is basically the same price than on the Apple store. [1]: http://shop.o2.co.uk/mobile_phone/pay_monthly/init/LG/Nexus_... [2]: http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-pho…
If you really want to buy it from Google play, and get an email when it's available, check out my site
canibuyanexus4.info
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4822559
I blogged about this yesterday. If that's their plan, it helps to occasionally have them in stock. But they've had none in stock, no preorders, nothing, for 10 days now. In fact, it's only been in stock for 30 minutes ever. False scarcity is a great marketing technique. Ask Apple and Nintendo. Key word is " false ".
I don't think this is a marketing technique. I think Google + LG have genuinely screwed this one up through underestimation of demand, manufacturing/supply problems, or both. There's too much competition in phones right now for them to give up a customer to someone who is interested but needs to wait. Plus, with the holiday season in full swing, retailers are pushing discounts hard, and every day counts.
Constrained supply can be a good marketing technique for a short period time and can drive awareness and a sense of urgency, but the demand needs to be elastic. 12 months after the Wii launched, it was still highly sought and frequently sold out. I don't think we'll be saying the same for the Nexus 4 in November 2013.
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#59Oh good. Anyone know if that will work with EE in the UK?
Band 4 is 1700Mhz EE UK uses LTE on the 1800Mhz Here's a list of the LTE networking bands http://niviuk.free.fr/lte_band.php (nice graphics below)
The Anandtech article didn't test out 1800MHz, but I would guess that 1800MHz (band 3) would be the second most likely band to be supported on the Nexus 4. It is a band until now normally used for GSM.
The other bands he has tested for aren't really in use for LTE yet.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
I blogged about this yesterday. If that's their plan, it helps to occasionally have them in stock. But they've had none in stock, no preorders, nothing, for 10 days now. In fact, it's only been in stock for 30 minutes ever. False scarcity is a great marketing technique. Ask Apple and Nintendo. Key word is " false ".
Who [or what] decides whether scarcity is true or false?
I was about to say the same thing, but timeshifter (whose account appears to be hellbanned) beat me to it:
>If they actually can provide, but claim they can't, it's false.