It doesn't make sense... like a lot of it. Probably because he is marketer. I get he is upset because things change and that's it.
It is time to build a new internet
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Re: It is time to build a new internet
#32It's the most dumb article I have ever seen on Hackernews with respect to the writer who has knowledge about protocols and concepts. No TCP/IP means no normal internet routing. → You would need a totally new way for machines to find and send data to each other. Bots are not tied to HTTP/HTML forever, people can write new bots for the new protocol, including by the use of GUI automation (digital or with plotters that…
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Re: It is time to build a new internet
#33You should checkout the Gemini Protocol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_(protocol)
Yes and it is cell phone friendly. I moved my site to gemini a couple of years ago. Maintenance is trivial compared to the WEB. There is also gopher and USENET, but on cells it can be hard. But the largest issue is the users attraction to "bright and shiny". I think no matter what comes I fear it will end up on the same path as now. Gemini has the ability to avoid enshitification, but it is still not attracting users…
Gopher and Gemini can both work on many kind of devices; having a monochrome display, or the differences in input (e.g. having numbered lines works OK, especially since both require links to be on a line by itself, unlike HTML), etc, without the author of the document needing to worry about such things like that. In both cases text entry might sometimes be needed so is not ideal but still it is possible.
What is "TLC" meaning here? Furthermore, for the purpose of keeping out commercial entities, it would be necessary to have the details of what is intended to be avoided and in what contexts, as well as how to avoid certain things; I think simply "keeping out commercial entities" won't do (except perhaps for such things like e.g. indexing services, which can choose not to link to them).
Re: It is time to build a new internet
#34Too late for the tech part. The tech stack may be incomprehensible for humans, but LLMs will build on top of it just fine.
Re: It is time to build a new internet
#35Ok, this isn’t the way (replacing TCP/IP is impossible - we can’t even upgrade the VERSION of IP for god’s sake), but I do like the intent.
Since you have nerd sniped me, I will take a riff at what the principles should be (feel free to disagree):
1. The internet should be centered on devices we own. It runs on our devices, data is stored on our devices. For god’s sake, you can get a 20TB drive now for $500.
2. The internet should be local-first too. The normal order of operations should mean that things are local such that they work offline too by default.
3. The internet should be private. What we view shouldn’t be trackable. I think some of this falls out of 1 and 2, but something something like Tor for the rest.
I think this aligns with the principles of local-first software: https://www.inkandswitch.com/essay/local-first/ largely, with a twist of content addressed storage for bulk static content exchange (so more Git than CRDTs).
Re: It is time to build a new internet
#36If you like HN but not Reddit then why not develop a simple blocking whitelist? You’d have to update it for all the good sites, but it would be easier than everyone else changing networks.
Re: It is time to build a new internet
#37It's the most dumb article I have ever seen on Hackernews with respect to the writer who has knowledge about protocols and concepts. No TCP/IP means no normal internet routing. → You would need a totally new way for machines to find and send data to each other. Bots are not tied to HTTP/HTML forever, people can write new bots for the new protocol, including by the use of GUI automation (digital or with plotters that…
At least he got the premise right, if not the implementation. That is better than 50% of articles. :)
Re: It is time to build a new internet
#38Hate to sound elitist but the normie-ification of the internet has ruined it. I started using the internet long after the "Eternal September", and even in my lifetime the decline has been stark.
To escape everything that makes the internet garbage now, I've come to the conclusion we need gated digital communities kept free of anything other than donation-based monetisation.
Re: It is time to build a new internet
#39> What we basically need is a completely new protocol stack that is not interoperable with TCP/IP. You cannot solve social problems using technical solutions. Someone would simply build a bridge and siphon data out or in. Interoperability is one of those low-hanging fruits that, once solved, ruins its value.
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Re: It is time to build a new internet
#40It's the most dumb article I have ever seen on Hackernews with respect to the writer who has knowledge about protocols and concepts. No TCP/IP means no normal internet routing. → You would need a totally new way for machines to find and send data to each other. Bots are not tied to HTTP/HTML forever, people can write new bots for the new protocol, including by the use of GUI automation (digital or with plotters that…
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I place the probability that GP's post was LLM-generated at approximately 0%.