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ThAt's one of the interesting(?) aspects of prediction markets. Some meaningful percentage of people in the market need to be bringing some useful insight. If everyone is just making random guesses, the market isn't very useful (other than, perhaps, financially to the lucky).

What insights are being gained? Every time this topic comes up, I see someone vaguely mentioning insights from prediction markets. But no one ever has concrete examples - real or even hypothetical. Can you give an example of insights derived from prediction markets? Who benefited from the insights, and how did they act on the insights?

Hypothetically, someone who doesn’t live in the United States and is considering accepting a job there might appreciate the insight from prediction markets on the upcoming U.S. presidential election. If the likely candidate promises to enact policies that would make that person’s life worse, that would give them reason to reject the job offer.

Other hypothetical prediction markets whose insights would be useful include those used in futarchy, a proposed government system in which decisions are made based on betting markets. The proposal: https://mason.gmu.edu/~rhanson/futarchy.html; some analysis: https://www.lesswrong.com/w/futarchy. In futarchy, prediction markets would be set up for, for example, “average happiness of citizens (as measured by regular survey) will increase in 1 year if Bill ABC passes” and “average happiness of citizens will increase in 1 year if Bill ABC does not pass”. The government would pass or reject proposed bills according to whichever market predicts higher happiness, and the market describing the event that did not happen would be closed and its money refunded.

Re: Minnesota becomes first state to ban prediction markets

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There's rampant fraud on the "prediction markets".

How does it hurt anyone? Whatever happened to "personal responsibility"? It'e entertainment. Don't participate if you don't want to.

it's personal responsibility to get taken by a business? I don't think so.

Re: Minnesota becomes first state to ban prediction markets

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For the record, Minnesota currently has a complete ban on sports betting. We've seen a couple other states that allow sports betting go after prediction markets. Personally, I feel that any state that allows sports betting is going to struggle to argue a case to ban prediction markets because you're essentially arguing over implementation details. Even arguments that certain prediction markets are ripe for insider tr…

I think sports betting is a lot less harmful than prediction markets. With sports betting if someone throws a game to get a pay day, for instance, the only real consequence is on the reputation of the sport. In prediction markets, people can do all sorts of awful things to make money as insiders..

Prediction markets have a positive externality, the public gets information sooner. I never bet on kalshi or polymarket but I look at the markets because it's information. But I don't care about sports.

Re: Minnesota becomes first state to ban prediction markets

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For the record, Minnesota currently has a complete ban on sports betting. We've seen a couple other states that allow sports betting go after prediction markets. Personally, I feel that any state that allows sports betting is going to struggle to argue a case to ban prediction markets because you're essentially arguing over implementation details. Even arguments that certain prediction markets are ripe for insider tr…

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Re: Minnesota becomes first state to ban prediction markets

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For the record, Minnesota currently has a complete ban on sports betting. We've seen a couple other states that allow sports betting go after prediction markets. Personally, I feel that any state that allows sports betting is going to struggle to argue a case to ban prediction markets because you're essentially arguing over implementation details. Even arguments that certain prediction markets are ripe for insider tr…

> Personally, I feel that any state that allows sports betting is going to struggle to argue a case to ban prediction markets because you're essentially arguing over implementation details. This seems to be based on the false assumption that state legislation on distinct but related topics must generally be based on a coherent, consistent rationale. This is, very much, not the case under any law that binds US states,…

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