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Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by WarmWash »

embedding-shape wrote: post #12
MisterKent wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. Didn't realize OAI was astroturfing hacker news now...

All the labs astroturf all the social media, HN is not unique and OpenAI wouldn't be the only ones. I even receive offers sometimes on my email put in my HN profile, asking me to post about their project in exchange for money. Be skeptical of anything you read online, not just what you think is "obvious astroturf".

I don't think Google does, they are way too massive, disorganized, and "by the book" for something like that. Also AI isn't life or death for them.

Besides they own 15% of Anthropic and cutting massive compute deals with them. On top of that they also have compute deals with OAI.

Google is positioning itself to win no matter what happens, Gemini is almost looking like a side project next to their cloud business.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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satvikpendem wrote: post #4
Sevii wrote: post #2

How did Google blow their AI lead? Why is Google the 2nd or 3rd tier player in the AI coding market? Why can't GCP supplant AWS? Because google can't help but constantly shoot its customers and itself in the foot.

No, it's more that Gemini models are simply not very good for coding compared to the top two. Even with Antigravity I use Claude models.

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Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by Andrex »

postalcoder wrote: post #24

Google made its lack of interest in Antigravity IDE obvious from very early. Updates were few and far between and app-breaking bugs stuck around, despite tons of reports. Google's lack of focus is astounding. They sprinkle random products here and there and seem to then tepidly pick the product surface that is doing least bad and then tepidly focus on that. Compare that to every other AI lab, large and small that kno…

The announcement of Google Allo really hammered that point home to me back in the day.

I'm sure Google Pics has a long, fulfilling life ahead of it.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by Andrex »

Sevii wrote: post #2

How did Google blow their AI lead? Why is Google the 2nd or 3rd tier player in the AI coding market? Why can't GCP supplant AWS? Because google can't help but constantly shoot its customers and itself in the foot.

They really just hate doing migration plans, especially longer ones (1+ year). Google seems like an outlier but I don't have real data to prove it.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by Andrex »

vlucas wrote: post #67

Cursor did this IDE -> Agents transition very well. Cursor still supports both the IDE and the Agents window, open at the same time, in the same project. I frequently use both and switch back and forth between them. They also link to each other from the top bar and right-click context menus so you can switch to one or the other seamlessly. Best of both worlds. Switch back to Cursor.

This would have been the proper way to do it, but it would have taken work, and Google really hates migration plans of any kind. Better to drop the 2.0 on users' heads out of nowhere and just move on.

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Post by mlmonkey »

postalcoder wrote: post #24

Google made its lack of interest in Antigravity IDE obvious from very early. Updates were few and far between and app-breaking bugs stuck around, despite tons of reports. Google's lack of focus is astounding. They sprinkle random products here and there and seem to then tepidly pick the product surface that is doing least bad and then tepidly focus on that. Compare that to every other AI lab, large and small that kno…

> Google's lack of focus is astounding.

As the sayinig goes, companies' products reflect their org charts.

Google is too top heavy. Each leader wants to expand his/her fiefdom, aka empire building. They'll ship random shit and if it doesn't stick, just drop it and move on.

Google needs someone senior internally who represents users; whose sole job is to look at things from their users' viewpoint and call out BS when they see any. Anybody else remember Matt Cutts from back in the day?

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Post by siren2026 »

cush wrote: post #26
Sevii wrote: post #2

How did Google blow their AI lead? Why is Google the 2nd or 3rd tier player in the AI coding market? Why can't GCP supplant AWS? Because google can't help but constantly shoot its customers and itself in the foot.

They had the lead for maybe a week or two. Now, only Apple is further behind.

Enough to pretend they were back in the game. All a stock pump.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by filoeleven »

andrewjneumann wrote: post #17

Google Enterprise accounts are sunsetting AI Ultra in favor of consumption based pricing at the end of the month. It’s unclear how limits for AI Ultra might change for gmail users. Flash3.5 is much better at coding, but also more expensive the pervious flash models. So much for AI getting cheaper.

It boggles the mind why people think AI will get cheaper when they're all selling tokens at a loss already.
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