I'm not sure I see the difference between this program and a company that distributes a similar system for employees to track all the same information?
Employment is voluntary, and in most contexts minors aren't capable of consent to contracts.
Judge temporarily saves girl facing suspension for refusing to wear RFID tag
21–30 of 105 posts
Re: Judge temporarily saves girl facing suspension for refusing to wear RFID tag
#22Am I the only one who thought technology was awesome while I was growing up but now it's just getting scary and creepy?
Re: Judge temporarily saves girl facing suspension for refusing to wear RFID tag
#23“Regimes in the past have always started with the schools, where they develop a compliant citizenry,” Whitehead continued. “These ‘Student Locator’ programs are ultimately aimed at getting students used to living in a total surveillance state where there will be no privacy, and wherever you go and whatever you text or email will be watched by the government.” This raises a very valid concern. Human beings aren't catt…
“These ‘Student Locator’ programs are ultimately aimed at getting students used to living in a total surveillance state where there will be no privacy, and wherever you go and whatever you text or email will be watched by the government.” Out of curiosity, are you more afraid of the government having that goal and enabling that environment or Facebook/Google/Foursquare/etc? Why? I think this is an interesting discuss…
You can opt out of Facebook/Google/Foursquare/etc, you can't opt out from your government.
Re: Judge temporarily saves girl facing suspension for refusing to wear RFID tag
#24Am I the only one who thought technology was awesome while I was growing up but now it's just getting scary and creepy?
Technology is amoral, its uses are not.
Re: Judge temporarily saves girl facing suspension for refusing to wear RFID tag
#25This is crap. How many of us have to where some I similar at work? Don't suspend her for not wearing it, just keep her out if class if she doesn't check in with it. Her attendance will falter in the system and she'll be expelled for lack of attendance. This is not big brother, its what every sane parent wants to know: where is my kid?
Re: Judge temporarily saves girl facing suspension for refusing to wear RFID tag
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a great point, but raises issues around the entire US public education system that often times crosses the line of babysitting vs. education (I know nothing about this school). Managing a bunch of 15 - 19 YO's is pretty challenging and as schools continue to get their budget raised or cut, based on attendance, it will be more important to manage attendance vs. GPA / performance. Having kids safely in school,…
> Having kids safely in school, with butt in seat in class, will be continue to be a driving KPI. Source? All of my years in school have taught me that (unwilling) attendance != comprehension of material.
Money in the public primary and secondary education system — and in the US that is around half a trillion dollars each year — flows according to body count, not learning. You get what you reward.
Re: Judge temporarily saves girl facing suspension for refusing to wear RFID tag
#27I'm not sure I see the difference between this program and a company that distributes a similar system for employees to track all the same information?
Minors are more easily indoctrinated into accepting that sort of thing. Employers who do this are being just as antisocial and psychopathic as this school district; the difference is that adults are mature enough to say, "This is not right," whereas children will grow up thinking, "This is how the world works, I better accept it."
Re: Judge temporarily saves girl facing suspension for refusing to wear RFID tag
#28I must say, I'm extremely worried about the USA, and this article demonstrates why. Should we really commend someone for being unable to tell the difference between an electronic component & radio transmission system, and the magical 'mark of the beast'? I'm also pretty sure that forcing people to wear tags is going to be overturned by a judge on the point of religious freedom, not based on a common sense decision. A…
You mention 'cost saving practicalities' several times in your comment, however you haven't mentioned any. I'd be interested to hear them.
Re: Judge temporarily saves girl facing suspension for refusing to wear RFID tag
#29Given the hackability of RFID, wouldn't it be faster, cheaper, and more effective to just pull some hijinx and make the school look like idiots? Also, women in tech! :-)
Something that came to mind is if you put an RFID detector near toilet doors and visibly show a count of how many people it thinks are in there, you could easily demonstrate what a terrible violation of privacy it is. Edit: You could also show who and how often, but I'm scared you'd be arrested...
Not only how many but who, and how often they go.
Re: Judge temporarily saves girl facing suspension for refusing to wear RFID tag
#30Given the hackability of RFID, wouldn't it be faster, cheaper, and more effective to just pull some hijinx and make the school look like idiots? Also, women in tech! :-)
Something that came to mind is if you put an RFID detector near toilet doors and visibly show a count of how many people it thinks are in there, you could easily demonstrate what a terrible violation of privacy it is. Edit: You could also show who and how often, but I'm scared you'd be arrested...
I think it's time for one of these students to start a webpage which displays how much time each student spends in the restroom. Searchable, and indexed by a person's real first + last name.
If that doesn't make the school realize how appalling this violation of privacy is, then they're too far gone for anything!