I have a Flipper Zero and these guys made a great tool, so I clicked this headline because it said "we need your help". After scrolling two pages I couldn't find what they need my help with, though. I scrolled to the end and couldn't find it there either. If I'm being honest, I like their stuff but not enough to dig through 8 pages of content to find out what helping means.
Flipper One – we need your help
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#372Earlier quoted context omitted.
If anyone’s wondering why this replier is so angry, it’s because they spent a lot of time arguing with people further down the comment section over whether this article is too heavily written by AI. (I'd say it is.) It probably irked them to find the top comment had no mention of AI, but is still getting at the same root problem… the article is 2-3x longer than it could be, with lots of rambling and repetition, so it…
> If anyone’s wondering why this replier is so angry Angry? I'm guessing it's the last part that made me seem angry, I'm not though, just human, and tired of people who say they want to help yet seemingly reading is too much. A bit of straightforward language seems more effective at communicating this, than dancing around the issue. And why on earth would I care if the top comment mentions AI? I don't even read HN co…
Namely, we see a AI DDOS'ing blog entry, 20 pages text, 35 with images, thats a mishmash of specs and requesting help with...Linux kernel coding!? to support their selected SoC? For hardware they're already accepting preorders for?
Then, someone reframing confusion as many people failing to read, which is about the most incurious and thought short-circuiting idea possible, even before it is used in discussion.
This question is only more forward in my mind after noting you're taking things personally. (vendetta?!)
It is worth noting this is the second time in 18 hours HN is dealing with their AI spam.
Yesterday's was a preorder page with multiple "needs verification" and "needs clarification" markers, including in the darn spec sheet. (via ChatGPT's system prompt for non-coding writing tasks)
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#373Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If you have specific complaints about the text and content, bring those up instead, and we could discuss those or even correct the linked page itself, as it seems to be a wiki. But general complaints that could be copy-pasted for any submission, just so you can feel heard about that you think this was AI written, gets so tiring to read for every submission. No. And the reason is pretty simple: if you couldn't bothe…
Yeah, I'd be fine with it if every AI-generated posted was required to have “AI gen:” at the beginning of the title so that readers could make an informed decision about whether they should spend their time to read something that was not worth even 1 person’s time to write.
Personally, I'd skip clicking on any slop links, which eliminates any anti slop comments I'd make.
Re: Flipper One – we need your help
#374I have a Flipper Zero and these guys made a great tool, so I clicked this headline because it said "we need your help". After scrolling two pages I couldn't find what they need my help with, though. I scrolled to the end and couldn't find it there either. If I'm being honest, I like their stuff but not enough to dig through 8 pages of content to find out what helping means.
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#375Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If anyone’s wondering why this replier is so angry Angry? I'm guessing it's the last part that made me seem angry, I'm not though, just human, and tired of people who say they want to help yet seemingly reading is too much. A bit of straightforward language seems more effective at communicating this, than dancing around the issue. And why on earth would I care if the top comment mentions AI? I don't even read HN co…
They're responding to the same question I had, and others surely had. Namely, we see a AI DDOS'ing blog entry, 20 pages text, 35 with images, thats a mishmash of specs and requesting help with...Linux kernel coding!? to support their selected SoC? For hardware they're already accepting preorders for? Then, someone reframing confusion as many people failing to read, which is about the most incurious and thought short-…
Yeah, if you bring up completely unrelated stuff I've said elsewhere in a different context, to bring up where it's off-topic, then how is that anything else than personal, even the assumption about what feelings I'm feeling? Reply to what I said in that thread, if it's so damn important for you that I read what you write.
Fine, I understand the two of you really, really want to discuss if this article is AI or not, and how much of it is AI, and what what other Flipper pages were submitted to HN, but do you really need to discuss that in every sub-thread in this submission, can't that conversation happen where it happened before?
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#376I just want them to finally ship Busy Bar https://busy.app/
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#377I have a Flipper Zero and these guys made a great tool, so I clicked this headline because it said "we need your help". After scrolling two pages I couldn't find what they need my help with, though. I scrolled to the end and couldn't find it there either. If I'm being honest, I like their stuff but not enough to dig through 8 pages of content to find out what helping means.
As I read it they are simply out of their depth in terms of what their aspirations are and what they feel they are able to accomplish. The goal of "replacing binary blobs" with open source is a good one, I'm all for it. But my experience is that "binary blob" means "licensed IP, protected by patents and NDAs." So pretty challenging. You have to 1) reverse engineer something that someone has protected (potential DMCA violations), and 2) publish it without getting sued (just generally annoying even if it is an understood risk).
I'd love to see the Flipper one get built, I'd certainly buy one. That the Rockchip folks are unwilling to disclose to them sufficient documentation for them to re implement their binary blobs from scratch is a huge red flag.
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#378Most articles I click on in the HN homepage turn out to be written by AI, judging from the phrasing. I'm weirded out by the fact that people don't seem to find it important to write their own thoughts down. The writing in TFA is clearly supervised by a human, but still, the wording is not human at all.
> the wording is not human at all Or they are not a native speaker. I guess it's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't situation". Use a LLM to clean up your own prose? Bad. Post your unedited (or self-edited) prose? I guess it is "not human".
Re: Flipper One – we need your help
#379Most articles I click on in the HN homepage turn out to be written by AI, judging from the phrasing. I'm weirded out by the fact that people don't seem to find it important to write their own thoughts down. The writing in TFA is clearly supervised by a human, but still, the wording is not human at all.
When the AI is good enough to be indistinguishable from a human author, will you still care, or will you then accept it?
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#380> https://flipper.net/pages/warranty-policy warranty covers defects in materials and workmanship for a period of one (1) year
but not complying with either UK nor EU warranty laws.
https://flipper.net/pages/b2b-and-tax-exemption-policy
and unable to B2B in EU/UK? Will any of my money go to russia when buying Flipper One?