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Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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Post by HeartStrings »

1shooner wrote: post #91
Biganon wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes you think this is AI slop?...

The heading " Why it's wrong" and the structure: >Worse: it's a conversation killer. There's nothing to respond to. Your wall of text suppresses dialogue. They can't reply, can't push back, can't clarify. It's a weapon disguised as helpfulness. This is slop. What it's saying is not even true, it's just punchy.

Right, recent youtube solo lecture vlogs ripe with these clever punchy finishers. Annoying. I know people aren’t smart enough to actually be that witty ad hoc. Makes the whole thing feel fake af

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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Post by tintor »

fmbb wrote: post #124
nikeee wrote: post #67

When I'm encountering some WoT like that, I'd like to have a button like "view source", but for "view prompt". Most ai generated messages or docs are unnecessarily verbose and just reading the prompt would suffice. I don't really get why some people seem to think that it's somehow better to have their bullet point prompt as a huge text. It just wastes my time. And probably only makes it look like it took more effort…

I just want a ”report to HR” button. Someone is actively inhibiting their coworkers’ ability to work.

HR isn’t there to protect or help or serve employees.

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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Post by HeartStrings »

avazhi wrote: post #127
joenot443 wrote: post #11

This is slop too though, right? > Pasting a massive AI-generated response into a chat or email where a human would write one sentence. It destroys the medium itself. Nobody writes essays in Slack. It's only possible because of AI copy-paste. > It's like calling someone and asking "What time is the meeting?" and they read you a 10-page analysis of calendar management best practices. You asked a simple question. They l…

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All slopposters should get perma-lobotomized ^

Heres a sentence you will never have an ai say

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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Post by Terr_ »

I agree that between humans the example given is laziness and disrespect.

That said, I want to make it clear that if people are going to regurgitate LLM results either way, I'd rather get the longer slop than trust a concise "Use Redis" conclusion from a system that doesn't think the way we wish/assume it does.

Ultimately we're using a statistical language algorithm to predict what kinds of words usually come next in a short story we've constructed.

* If you train it for short outputs (or stories where a fictional computer character has short dialogue) you're prioritizing text from places where someone answered without explaining.

* If you run its output through a hidden "summarize yourself" path, you're adding additional potential for error and dropping details you could have used to detect it.

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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Post by impendia »

DamnInteresting wrote: post #121
bluGill wrote: post #72

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Do you start every response off with "that is a great question"? I don't know any human who does. "that is a great question" is reserved either for really hard questions, or sarcasm. The majority of questions are not great, they are just things the asker needs a simple answer.

That's a great question! Ahem. I remember being advised to do this ~20 years ago when I was going to be answering questions from a group of people. I was told that it's good practice to say something like "that's a great question" every time someone asks anything, as a form of social lubrication, to encourage others to ask questions. I can't say whether it works, and it was advice for a spoken context rather than wri…

Math professor here.

When I go to research lectures, I sometimes hear that in response to audience questions, although not especially consistently. Some speakers do this more than others, I don't think anyone does it all the time.

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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Post by HeartStrings »

hootz wrote: post #48
great_wubwub wrote: post #43

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I have a coworker whose first language isn't English. She uses AI to polish up her writing, particularly long documents. She puts a ton of effort into making sure that it still reads well. Because of this effort her writing is strong and precise. Before AI she made all the obvious mistakes you'd expect from someone who's not a native English speaker. It's very hard to tell that she used AI because she puts so much ef…

Then a better recommendation should be to use specialized AI proofreading tools, such as Kagi Translate's proofread feature. Yeah, it uses AI, but the "harness" around it forces you to use it only to improve your text, not sloppify it. https://translate.kagi.com/proofread

Why would you proofread in 2026?? Punctuation and grammar errors give further credence to human authorship.

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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Post by mrguyorama »

jappgar wrote: post #12

I swear most executives can barely read so you're not doing your career any favors sending them more than 150 characters.

It's called an executive summary because that's the only thing the executive will read of your carefully put together report.

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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Post by ahtihn »

sweetheart wrote: post #147
ahtihn wrote: post #132

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Copy/pasting a question to LLM and pasting back the output isn't an attempt ar being helpful. It's the equivalent of a lmgtfy link.

But the point OP is making is that it's entirely possible that the person doing this _does_ see it as them being as helpful as possible. That doesn't mean it doesn't suck, or that it isn't annoying, though. I dunno, just seems like a coin toss to me: was this backed by good intentions or not? Without other "evidence", assuming that it was well-meaning but misguided feels better for _both_ of us (at least in my experi…

Having good intentions doesn't give a free pass to be obnoxious.

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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Post by layer8 »

sweetheart wrote: post #147
ahtihn wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Copy/pasting a question to LLM and pasting back the output isn't an attempt ar being helpful. It's the equivalent of a lmgtfy link.

But the point OP is making is that it's entirely possible that the person doing this _does_ see it as them being as helpful as possible. That doesn't mean it doesn't suck, or that it isn't annoying, though. I dunno, just seems like a coin toss to me: was this backed by good intentions or not? Without other "evidence", assuming that it was well-meaning but misguided feels better for _both_ of us (at least in my experi…

Good intentions don’t excuse bad behavior, and shouldn’t oblige one to silently accept it.
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