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Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by Balgair »

idle_zealot wrote: post #281
mixtureoftakes wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So they made a phone?

More evidence of the Smartphonification theory. Much like how all life trends towards crab, or all software towards reading mail and including a bespoke Scheme implementation, I posit that all hardware eventually becomes a smartphone. Examples: - the cellphone (obviously) - my TV - my refrigerator - my oven - music players - tablet computers - laptops (well on their way) - cash registers->PoS sales machines - handhel…

> Much like how all life trends towards crab

Carcinisation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcinisation)

The same seems to be true for trees too (arborescence).

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Post by inventor7777 »

I really, really, really love this concept. I think there is SOME feature creep, but it does seem more or less scoped well to IP-type protocols.

However, I don't think they need to be prioritizing the local AI features, which are cool...but models get far smarter when you run them on a proper Mac/external GPU vs a small battery powered Flipper device. I think it might be helpful on the go, in the field, etc, but the usability with no dedicated keyboard will be rather poor.

However, I think they should keep focusing on the Zero for a possible Zero 2 to match the capabilities of this One device. I love my Zero, but I think it is missing key features like full support for garage door and RFID rolling codes, and some other protocols. The WiFi dev board is very limited, and there is no simple way to capture/playback BLE remotes IIRC. Of course, it depends on whether you consider BLE to be layer 0 or layer 1.

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Post by risyachka »

azalemeth wrote: post #5

This looks flippin' amazing, but also like the definition of project scope creep. I imagine it will be brilliant, unaffordable, surprisingly cheap, terrible and awesome (in both senses of the word) all at the same time. 3GPP really needs a light shining through it. I sincerely hope I work out a way of getting someone else to buy the thing for me. And the push towards all in-tree source is fantastic. Genuinely impress…

just fyi its also russian

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Post by MadrasThorn »

antirez wrote: post #236

This lacks the sharp idea the Zero had. I have the feeling that in order to do something different, and not an evolution, the result will be borderline useless: a portable ARM computer with Wifi / satellite connection / ... And, then? What I can do with it? The evolution that I could like is a Zero with more CPU power, SDR and LoRa. Then let's implement all the cool protocols that it is possible to implement.

I have to agree baby steps.

They design a completely new product and suddenly announce a collaboration?

Not a fan but the new project looks cool.

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Post by galleywest200 »

cobolcomesback wrote: post #208
zhovner wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm the author of this text. It was originaly writen in a mix of russian and english WITHOUT the AI and then polished and translated by editors. Here is the original draft https://blog.flipper.net/p/b5b7e9f8-a99f-4393-bf72-23fe5a42e...

Sorry but I call bullshit. There’s em-dashes all over, even in your original text. Were the editors or translators an AI? Did the editors use AI to “polish” it? The emojis used in the bullet points (which are missing from your original text, but were added in at some point) are also dead giveaways that AI was involved here.

I used em-dashes before Gen AI was a thing and I refuse to stop using them. Doing so is admitting the AI companies won. I am not going to change the way I write just to appease some terminally online folks who lack the ability to understand that LLMs learned to write from our writings.

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Post by Aurornis »

antirez wrote: post #236

This lacks the sharp idea the Zero had. I have the feeling that in order to do something different, and not an evolution, the result will be borderline useless: a portable ARM computer with Wifi / satellite connection / ... And, then? What I can do with it? The evolution that I could like is a Zero with more CPU power, SDR and LoRa. Then let's implement all the cool protocols that it is possible to implement.

I agree, but on the other hand I think most people who bought a Flipper Zero didn't really have a use for that either. The most commonly cited use case is doing something with RFID tags, which was already achievable with much cheaper hardware.

There's a big category of tools that people buy because they're cool and feel like they come with limitless possibilities, but then end up in a drawer. Raspberry Pi became this for a lot of people. It took a lot of years and a lot of market saturation before everyone realized that they're not a good deal if you have a specific need for a general purpose computer, despite their usefulness for specific applications.

The Flipper Zero felt like a tool with infinite possibilities, but it takes a while for most people to admit that they don't have infinite use cases, or that application-specific hardware can often do a better job for less. Exactly like when everyone was buying Raspberry Pis as general purpose computers. But it's a cool product and it had a lot of viral marketing going in its favor.

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Post by m0llusk »

lkey wrote: post #71
embedding-shape wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tbh, I'm getting more frustrated with the ever-coming flood of "Bah I didn't read because it was obvious AI blah blah" which seemingly every single submission HAS to come with nowadays on HN, god forbid someone is more interested in the content than the flow of the words. If you have specific complaints about the text and content, bring those up instead, and we could discuss those or even correct the linked page itse…

Wow! I hear you and you're absolutely right. It's not just short-sighted of ; It's self-destructive! * It's the job of the consumer to correct and edit the content they consume * Content creators have it hard enough ——— prompt-crafting and imagining transformative and disruptive new horizons in tech * So what if the prose is 4x longer than it should be? The time value delta between real creatives and the average HN-e…

Kind of like digging in tar pits: Hey, look, there's another one of those.
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