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Shunning AI is the human choice

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Post by velcrovan »

splittydev wrote: post #2

These people are going to have a really hard time coming to grips with reality in the next few years. AI is here to stay, and it's expanding very rapidly. If you can't fight them, join them.

I like the example of the actors' unions in the 1960s, where instead of "fighting" television in the sense of demanding people stop using it, they fought by organizing to get ongoing residual payments whenever their work was repurposed for the new medium. You don't have to stop fighting, you just need to recognize what the real problem is.

https://opcraft.co/writing/2026/04/getting-the-good-ai-futur...

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Post by metaltyphoon »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #57
empath75 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would not recommend that people "suck it up", but I think people have to come to terms with the fact that AI is a legitimate technology that is going to transform the way people live and work. That is just a fact of life, as surely true about AI as it was true about the internet, or smart phones, or cars, or radio, or the train. You can close your eyes and pretend that it is not coming, or you can organize politica…

> There is no possible universe where AI is banned Yes there is It's just a whole lot more violent than you're imagining

Society is just 3 meals away from going that route

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Post by logicchains »

mrbungie wrote: post #9
splittydev wrote: post #2

These people are going to have a really hard time coming to grips with reality in the next few years. AI is here to stay, and it's expanding very rapidly. If you can't fight them, join them.

AI as a tech is fine. But disliking it and the social/economic effects around it is fine too, people should be allowed to feel however they want to feel about certain techs and situations. To recommend people to suck it up is not the answer I wish in the society I want to live in.

>people should be allowed to feel however they want to feel about certain techs and situations.

All the white collar workers whining about AI didn't give a damn about the tens of millions of factory workers who lost their jobs to automation. Society doesn't owe them any more sympathy than they gave to the workers whose jobs they automated away.

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Post by ieie3366 »

Lambdanaut wrote: post #36
satvikpendem wrote: post #5

Interesting what the disconnect is between what the vocal minority say about AI versus the vast majority who use it every day and do not care, such as coders and even regular people, as ChatGPT has almost a billion users.

I'm not sure what you mean because you didn't actually say it, but AI is polling as one of the most disliked topics in the USA right now. More hated than ICE. Source: https://pos.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/260072-NBC-March-...

And how much of this is due to the sloppers/grifters/conmen who hopped on to the AI train (same thing which happened to crypto?)

I feel like that is what the hate needs to be directed towards. Same thing with crypto. There is fundamentally nothing wrong with the technology itself. It’s that we are letting these scammers become the face of it

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Post by swiftcoder »

elpocko wrote: post #64
mrbungie wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI as a tech is fine. But disliking it and the social/economic effects around it is fine too, people should be allowed to feel however they want to feel about certain techs and situations. To recommend people to suck it up is not the answer I wish in the society I want to live in.

> To recommend people to suck it up is not the answer I wish in the society I want to live in. Funny that AI is the breaking point here instead of things that actually matter. It's perfectly fine to tell people to suck it up on a huge number of more important issues.

> Funny that AI is the breaking point here instead of things that actually matter

Nah, it's just one with high relevance to a tech audience. We say similar things around here re ubiquitous surveillance tech, internet censorship by governments / payment processors, the effects of social media...

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Post by dwa3592 »

I think this highlights the dichotomy of AI use and how it's shaping everyone's opinion based on their own experience. It's your AI versus mine. You could be OpenAI with unlimited compute and disprove a conjecture or you could be the people referred in the article who are asking claude if a story is written by a human. Opus 4.7 can generate working code faster than I ever could but I still see it as a dumb word calculator bc of the mistakes it makes.

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Post by nibblecid »

I believe that the technology is not the problem! It is the people who use AI in bad/unhealthy/unethical ways. I bet that in 10 years, we'll have a movie like The Big Short style talking about all the crazy things people did with AI, and the audience will say, "Yeah! We saw it coming!" No, you didn't!

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Post by nilirl »

> I’m not just skeptical. I'm against it.

I understand the sentiment but I don't think it's useful to take a directly antagonistic stance, especially when it's a losing battle.

For those who feel this way, our best hope is to keep searching for how we can have a world that values human effort and care, even after AI does everything it's proclaimed to do.

We can't declare the world a lost cause and relegate ourselves to only hating. We need to do what we've always done: roll with it.

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Post by asklq »

splittydev wrote: post #2

These people are going to have a really hard time coming to grips with reality in the next few years. AI is here to stay, and it's expanding very rapidly. If you can't fight them, join them.

It bothers me that this is just the "deal with it" and "get on the rocket ship if you are offered a seat" argument. These are the exact arguments of the CEOs that were booed and the article correctly interprets it as giving graduates no choice or agency.

Even if a technology is good like the German Maglev, it can ultimately find (almost no) buyers. AI tech isn't even good. It is a plagiarism instrument for those who cannot use "git clone".

If you don't resist and learn real skills, you will be the first to be fired in maybe four years. The companies are using the current enthusiasts as useful idiots, and it is well known what happens to those after a revolution.

The graduates are well advised to wake up and see their real roles. You can fight them.

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