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Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by feelamee »

suddenlybananas wrote: post #98
embedding-shape wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is exhausting to always have to read word salads with little content. Agreed, but you know how others solve this problem? We close the tab, move on with our lives, without feeling the need to leave the generic "This seems like it was mostly written with LLMs" slopplaint HN comment.

Why is it okay for you to post a comment complaining about people posting comments complaining about AI posts? Why don't you just move on with your life instead of posting a complaint on HN about others' complaints?

because 70 of 140 comments under this submission are owned by this thread about AI.

And this is usually not what you want when you click on an interesting submission

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by handwarmers »

ctenb wrote: post #21

Most articles I click on in the HN homepage turn out to be written by AI, judging from the phrasing. I'm weirded out by the fact that people don't seem to find it important to write their own thoughts down. The writing in TFA is clearly supervised by a human, but still, the wording is not human at all.

IMO the article was a great intro to the project and I really like how the thoughts were laid out. I got a lot of food for thought from it and I'd recommend that people read it. I don't care how it was written.

AI can produce interesting thoughts just like you can produce meaningless flamewars.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by londons_explore »

Is a DDR trainer really that hard to write?

I imagine you dump all the config registers of a running system, and then adjust everything that looks like some timing or drive strength parameter upwards till it stops working properly, downwards till it stops working, and then choose a middle value.

Do that repeatedly for every parameter pre-boot, and then use that config. Perhaps redo that every few hours or when the temperature changes.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by handwarmers »

zhovner wrote: post #133
ctenb wrote: post #21

Most articles I click on in the HN homepage turn out to be written by AI, judging from the phrasing. I'm weirded out by the fact that people don't seem to find it important to write their own thoughts down. The writing in TFA is clearly supervised by a human, but still, the wording is not human at all.

I'm the author of this text. It was originaly writen in a mix of russian and english WITHOUT the AI and then polished and translated by editors. Here is the original draft https://blog.flipper.net/p/b5b7e9f8-a99f-4393-bf72-23fe5a42e...

Don't be discouraged by the comment section here. HN is a cesspool at this point.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by zhovner »

leobuskin wrote: post #145

@zhovner, would you consider reverse engineering of the blobs as a temporary measure? in 2026 it's very doable and scales

We're currently negotiating with Rockchip and will first try to convince them to open source. This particular binary isn't a problem right now. I'm sure it will be open source sooner or later. All efforts are currently focused on hardware validation, and software is being developed only in areas where hardware verification is required.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by no-name-here »

palmotea wrote: post #73
embedding-shape wrote: post #26

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Tbh, I'm getting more frustrated with the ever-coming flood of "Bah I didn't read because it was obvious AI blah blah" which seemingly every single submission HAS to come with nowadays on HN, god forbid someone is more interested in the content than the flow of the words. If you have specific complaints about the text and content, bring those up instead, and we could discuss those or even correct the linked page itse…

> If you have specific complaints about the text and content, bring those up instead, and we could discuss those or even correct the linked page itself, as it seems to be a wiki. But general complaints that could be copy-pasted for any submission, just so you can feel heard about that you think this was AI written, gets so tiring to read for every submission. No. And the reason is pretty simple: if you couldn't bothe…

Yeah, I'd be fine with it if every AI-generated posted was required to have “AI gen:” at the beginning of the title so that readers could make an informed decision about whether they should spend their time to read something that was not worth even 1 person’s time to write.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by skinfaxi »

WhitneyLand wrote: post #160
zhovner wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm the author of this text. It was originaly writen in a mix of russian and english WITHOUT the AI and then polished and translated by editors. Here is the original draft https://blog.flipper.net/p/b5b7e9f8-a99f-4393-bf72-23fe5a42e...

It’s a bizarre feeling isn’t it? Sorry you’re having to defend the act of thinking. The problem is you can’t defend it right? Someone could say your evidence came from a prompt: “Take this article and reverse engineer a hypothetical unpolished first draft written in a mix of Russian and English” I’m not sure what the right answer is here. Fwiw I have no doubt you wrote it unassisted.

Chain of trust from RFID chips embedded in their fingertips that authenticated to their keyboard, proving that at least their fingers grazed the keys that formed the message.

But what if they're reading off of a pre-written message?

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Post by atroon »

cobolcomesback wrote: post #68
embedding-shape wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tbh, I'm getting more frustrated with the ever-coming flood of "Bah I didn't read because it was obvious AI blah blah" which seemingly every single submission HAS to come with nowadays on HN, god forbid someone is more interested in the content than the flow of the words. If you have specific complaints about the text and content, bring those up instead, and we could discuss those or even correct the linked page itse…

It is unreasonable to expect “specific complaints” about AI vomit like this, because one of the main issues with AI content is the ability to generate an overwhelming amount of it. It’s simply not feasible to give specific criticisms, because the criticism is with all of it. It’s like submitting a 10 page pull request to someone and then getting mad because the person didn’t give comments on every single snippet of c…

> led someone to believe a 10 page PR is appropriate to begin with.

Agreed, a 10 page PR is not on. But the original article, though evidently touched up, was appropriate in length and scope. What's your real criticism here?

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by GJim »

embedding-shape wrote: post #43
karlgkk wrote: post #39

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If you can’t be bothered to write it, I can’t be bothered to read it.

But still be bothered to leave a generic complain on HN, which you ideally can copy-paste across all potential LLM-written comments? Something doesn't add up there, don't spend energy writing the comments if you cannot even be bothered to read it because no one was bothered to write it.

> But still be bothered to leave a generic complain on HN

Is 'whataboutism' your counter argument? Really?

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