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Flipper One – we need your help

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Re: Flipper One – we need your help

#141
post #21

Most articles I click on in the HN homepage turn out to be written by AI, judging from the phrasing. I'm weirded out by the fact that people don't seem to find it important to write their own thoughts down. The writing in TFA is clearly supervised by a human, but still, the wording is not human at all.

fwiw, it's the word "honestly" for me. or more specifically, "honestly?". it's the new em dash.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

#142
post #91

I have read the whole thing, and I'm not sure what you would build with it. Can anyone give me some examples? I'm genuinely curious.

Pretty much anything you could use Linux for, except high performance stuff since the ARM SoC they've chosen is somewhat limited.

I look at it as a platform for solutions to technical problems, where either or both the solution and the problem are temporary in some sense. You could plug it into an ethernet port and have it automatically sniff the network for a while, or be your television box in hotels, or a leaner companion to some Kraken style SDR device than a laptop, or whatever.

Once you have a purpose which is more permanent, then you'd probably switch it out for another device.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

#143
post #140

Instead of re-inventing Linux distributions for FlipperOS on top of Debian. They should just choose to base it on NixOS which already has these "profiles" as a built-in feature called "Specializations" https://wiki.nixos.org/wiki/Specialisation

They already tried it and got so much pain that they decided on an easier way.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

#144
post #2

Cool, but I think they're holding themselves back with that weird form-factor. I would've preferred if they'd included a full QWERTY keyboard, like the the GPD Pocket 4[1] or the GPD Win Mini. With a proper keyboard, I could write code on the go, easily edit files, navigate a terminal and mess with things... and do so much more in general. Also, 8GB RAM is barely enough these days, whereas the GPD comes with upto 64G…

The product you’re suggesting is $1400, where as the zero sold for a 1/8 of that. Do we expect the Flipper One to have such a price hike as well?

Flipper zero was an arduino with half a dozen sensor, radio and other communication modules. Flipper one is a laptop/mobile phone class system in weird form factor no doubt its going to be more expensive. No point even comparing them. You can't call it a price hike if it's completely different category of product. There have been plenty of openish tinkerer laptop/mobile phones projects to know that paying high end laptop price for a device with compute power of last generation raspberry pi is a likely outcome.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

#146

Sounds like the second system effect. (The Mythical Man Month) First one is simple and focused, the second one tries to be & do everything. And frequently never ships.

Agreed. This will likely never ship with all the bloat. Custom AI model, custom OS, extremely custom architecture (2 "main" processors running independently...), barely reuses any of the previous work from Flipper Zero.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

#147
post #129

I've said a bunch of times that I really really wish that Pebble had gotten a chance to finish the Pebble Core: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/getpebble/pebble-2-time... This reminds me of that in a good way – a small Linux device that doesn't have to maintain a screen all the time (power) or focus on real-time but has physical buttons, connectivity, a microphone and a sealed case so it can be thrown in your po…

maybe repebble will pick it up again, sometime :) but i guess they're focused on more watches and a ring right now.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

#148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is unreasonable to expect “specific complaints” about AI vomit like this, because one of the main issues with AI content is the ability to generate an overwhelming amount of it. It’s simply not feasible to give specific criticisms, because the criticism is with all of it. It’s like submitting a 10 page pull request to someone and then getting mad because the person didn’t give comments on every single snippet of c…

> It is unreasonable to expect “specific complaints” about AI vomit like this, because one of the main issues with AI content is the ability to generate an overwhelming amount of it. It’s simply not feasible to give specific criticisms, because the criticism is with all of it. But how would that make the "I won't read this because it feels like AI" comments more interesting to read? No one is forcing you to read this…

>When I come across text that isn't great, for whatever reason, then I close the tab and move on with my life.

At the risk of being flip... maybe close this tab and move on?

>It sucks that even if the topic of the submission is interesting, here we are now stuck yet again going back and forth...

Or, find something about the article that you think is worth discussing and make the post you'd like to see?

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

#149
post #21

Most articles I click on in the HN homepage turn out to be written by AI, judging from the phrasing. I'm weirded out by the fact that people don't seem to find it important to write their own thoughts down. The writing in TFA is clearly supervised by a human, but still, the wording is not human at all.

> The writing in TFA is clearly supervised by a human, but still, the wording is not human at all. I don't see the AI 'tells' in this article. What are you noticing? They use a lot of em-dashes but they use them in a very human way.

In my experience, the bulleted list with emojis is usually a pretty strong tell (the one in the article just after "We call these parts sub-projects"). LLMs (maybe just ChatGPT) love doing that.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

#150
post #2

Cool, but I think they're holding themselves back with that weird form-factor. I would've preferred if they'd included a full QWERTY keyboard, like the the GPD Pocket 4[1] or the GPD Win Mini. With a proper keyboard, I could write code on the go, easily edit files, navigate a terminal and mess with things... and do so much more in general. Also, 8GB RAM is barely enough these days, whereas the GPD comes with upto 64G…

GPD already makes such things, as does ClockworkPi. The Flipper One is exciting in significant part because it offers a different, smaller form factor.
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