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Flipper One – we need your help

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Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by Gigachad »

d3Xt3r wrote: post #2

Cool, but I think they're holding themselves back with that weird form-factor. I would've preferred if they'd included a full QWERTY keyboard, like the the GPD Pocket 4[1] or the GPD Win Mini. With a proper keyboard, I could write code on the go, easily edit files, navigate a terminal and mess with things... and do so much more in general. Also, 8GB RAM is barely enough these days, whereas the GPD comes with upto 64G…

The thing has a 2 color display. 8gb is massively overkill. Theres not much you could do on this that would even need 2 gb.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by ryanschaefer »

lkey wrote: post #71
embedding-shape wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tbh, I'm getting more frustrated with the ever-coming flood of "Bah I didn't read because it was obvious AI blah blah" which seemingly every single submission HAS to come with nowadays on HN, god forbid someone is more interested in the content than the flow of the words. If you have specific complaints about the text and content, bring those up instead, and we could discuss those or even correct the linked page itse…

Wow! I hear you and you're absolutely right. It's not just short-sighted of ; It's self-destructive! * It's the job of the consumer to correct and edit the content they consume * Content creators have it hard enough ——— prompt-crafting and imagining transformative and disruptive new horizons in tech * So what if the prose is 4x longer than it should be? The time value delta between real creatives and the average HN-e…

The oversized emdashes are chefs kiss

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by zhovner »

ctenb wrote: post #21

Most articles I click on in the HN homepage turn out to be written by AI, judging from the phrasing. I'm weirded out by the fact that people don't seem to find it important to write their own thoughts down. The writing in TFA is clearly supervised by a human, but still, the wording is not human at all.

I'm the author of this text. It was originaly writen in a mix of russian and english WITHOUT the AI and then polished and translated by editors. Here is the original draft https://blog.flipper.net/p/b5b7e9f8-a99f-4393-bf72-23fe5a42e...

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by 1123581321 »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #89
ctenb wrote: post #21

Most articles I click on in the HN homepage turn out to be written by AI, judging from the phrasing. I'm weirded out by the fact that people don't seem to find it important to write their own thoughts down. The writing in TFA is clearly supervised by a human, but still, the wording is not human at all.

I'm actually confused by how people even use LLMs to write these articles. They sound so synthetic that I assume the LLM wrote most or all of the text, but how? Do they just write a bullet list of notes and then tell the LLM to go wild?

Yes, exactly. Or a few sentences “Write a post that tells people about…”

Their bulleted notes would’ve been a good post, most likely.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by ryanschaefer »

embedding-shape wrote: post #26
ctenb wrote: post #21

Most articles I click on in the HN homepage turn out to be written by AI, judging from the phrasing. I'm weirded out by the fact that people don't seem to find it important to write their own thoughts down. The writing in TFA is clearly supervised by a human, but still, the wording is not human at all.

Tbh, I'm getting more frustrated with the ever-coming flood of "Bah I didn't read because it was obvious AI blah blah" which seemingly every single submission HAS to come with nowadays on HN, god forbid someone is more interested in the content than the flow of the words. If you have specific complaints about the text and content, bring those up instead, and we could discuss those or even correct the linked page itse…

It’s the fat introduced by the process that annoys me the most. The user of the LLM had an idea, but it got greased up and packaged into something that the average person would create, not a specialist in the domain. It dumbs down everything into a single perspective / way of presenting a topic.

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Post by jrmg »

monegator wrote: post #50
embedding-shape wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tbh, I'm getting more frustrated with the ever-coming flood of "Bah I didn't read because it was obvious AI blah blah" which seemingly every single submission HAS to come with nowadays on HN, god forbid someone is more interested in the content than the flow of the words. If you have specific complaints about the text and content, bring those up instead, and we could discuss those or even correct the linked page itse…

It is exhausting to always have to read word salads with little content. Every single fucking article with 20 lines of introduction before you get a chance for actual content. LLM slop then dilutes the information, and LLM slop always read the same way. You know, how easy it is to spot LLM generated content, it is actually refreshing when you can tell it's a human.

I feel like the whole internet is recipe sites now sometimes.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by max__dev »

embedding-shape wrote: post #43
karlgkk wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you can’t be bothered to write it, I can’t be bothered to read it.

But still be bothered to leave a generic complain on HN, which you ideally can copy-paste across all potential LLM-written comments? Something doesn't add up there, don't spend energy writing the comments if you cannot even be bothered to read it because no one was bothered to write it.

I don't think the copy-paste dismissal is sound. Consider: You can ideally copy paste your generic comment across all potential LLM-written-criticism comments? And I can copy paste this generic comment on all LLM-written-criticism-apologist comments. Something doesn't add up here.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by randusername »

embedding-shape wrote: post #38
____tom____ wrote: post #33

Sounds like the second system effect. (The Mythical Man Month) First one is simple and focused, the second one tries to be & do everything. And frequently never ships.

> First one is simple and focused First time I've heard anyone call the Flipper Zero "simple" and "focused", most people seemed to have considered it a "swiss-knife" meant to just house a bunch of features and radios, meanwhile the One has less features but more connectivity and I/O. But apparently you're not alone in feeling this, but I don't understand what from the submission makes you and others believe so, what…

Well the first one was a microcontroller.

And this one is an 8-core Arm computer and the project has ambitions of some notoriously difficult things: no binary blobs, full mainline support (including a NPU), reinventing small-screen UI for more serious handheld computing, and supporting a ton of high-bandwidth interfaces.

This is not a simple step up in difficulty.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by blanched »

embedding-shape wrote: post #81
boesboes wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

nah it is just super disrespectful to make me read something you were too lazy to read.

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Why is it entitled for other people to complain about certain types content, but fine for you to do it here?
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