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Recreate famous water profiles using supermarket bottled water

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Re: Recreate famous water profiles using supermarket bottled water

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Post by anewhnaccount2 »

jaggederest wrote: post #10

I make my own mineral water - it's surprisingly straightforward. Make a concentrate of whatever you like, add a bit of it into a carbonation bottle, carbonate it, shake, refrigerate, and either consume sparkling or let it offgas. You have to carbonate because (at least in my case) the amount of minerals per liter is too much for them to dissolve on their own, but they generally stay in suspension even when degassed

Care to share some ratios? Where you get the minerals from? Electrolite mix? Won't it explode everywhere if you shake after carbonation?

Re: Recreate famous water profiles using supermarket bottled water

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Post by ramon156 »

fishtoaster wrote: post #5

Interesting! Given the obvious AI-written nature of this, I'd probably want to double-check the math, but it's a neat concept. As a homebrewer, the standard approach is to look up / measure your tap water's profile, buy a few grams of additives (gypsum, calcium chloride, epsom salt, etc), and add them to compensate. But if you don't have your water profile handy, this could work in a pinch. 5 gallons of bottled water…

For anyone that decides to vibe-code these kind of tools, have a generated content vs. manual labour split.

This isn't bound to AI-use, even if you scrape factual content, a million and one things can go wrong, so having some kind of checkbox that says "Yes, I have reviewed and verified it is one hundred and fifty percent certainly confidently true, a fact even" forces you to verify what you're publishing is true.

A POC is only 10% of the way.

Re: Recreate famous water profiles using supermarket bottled water

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Post by ramon156 »

epgui wrote: post #6

I’m calling BS on this. Biggish claims that are so vague as to be borderline unverifiable, no scientific basis laid out.

https://www.wikihow.com/Make-Mineral-Water

It's a thing, just a very niche thing. There are fancy walter filtration systems that put minerals back so it's more controlled. I suppose this is useful when you're living in America, where everything is chlorined to death.

Re: Recreate famous water profiles using supermarket bottled water

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Post by goobatrooba »

A very strange project. I can see the reasoning to get something familiarly premium from a cheap source, but surely in any developed country your only ever starting point should be tap water. Water that has been bottled months ago and been in (usually plastic) bottles for months can never be better than your local aquifer even if the source is harder. Gets more difficult of course if you are in a big city and your main source is recycled water from the local facility, but even then a little osmosis machine or simple filter will give you a better water than any Don Perrignon or Evian.

Re: Recreate famous water profiles using supermarket bottled water

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Post by mrten »

The (old) foodblog Khymos has an excel sheet to calculate what salts to add to get different mineral waters starting from the known composition of your own tap water: https://khymos.org/2012/01/04/mineral-waters-a-la-carte/

Trying it out is still on my list; it's not easy to get food-grade necessary salts...

Re: Recreate famous water profiles using supermarket bottled water

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Post by throawayonthe »

goobatrooba wrote: post #14

A very strange project. I can see the reasoning to get something familiarly premium from a cheap source, but surely in any developed country your only ever starting point should be tap water. Water that has been bottled months ago and been in (usually plastic) bottles for months can never be better than your local aquifer even if the source is harder. Gets more difficult of course if you are in a big city and your ma…

> can never be better than your local aquifer

lol getting that fresh water

also bottles have the mineral composition labeled, varies for tap water

Re: Recreate famous water profiles using supermarket bottled water

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Post by rob74 »

goobatrooba wrote: post #14

A very strange project. I can see the reasoning to get something familiarly premium from a cheap source, but surely in any developed country your only ever starting point should be tap water. Water that has been bottled months ago and been in (usually plastic) bottles for months can never be better than your local aquifer even if the source is harder. Gets more difficult of course if you are in a big city and your ma…

Yeah... especially since the source isn't really cheap either. Also, I have never understood how it can possibly make sense to ship water from Fiji to the US, or even from France or Italy to Germany. Local mineral waters may not have as much prestige, but they taste just as good. Actually, that would be a better project: compare the mineral composition of mineral waters to check which local mineral water best matches the taste of an imported brand.

Re: Recreate famous water profiles using supermarket bottled water

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Post by polotics »

esperent wrote: post #9
polotics wrote: post #3

Ok, so: """You’re not fighting the water or compensating for it; you’re working with a clean, neutral base that lets the coffee do the talking.""" The author is I think letting something else than coffee do the talking here. Have a brew maybe?

Are you complaining it looks AI? It might be, but it's also a sentence I might have read on any "choosing water for coffee" article of the last twenty years.

I was complaining about stilted prose, and indeed a few years back I would just have let it slide. But now it grates more I guess.

Re: Recreate famous water profiles using supermarket bottled water

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Post by Arodex »

epgui wrote: post #6

I’m calling BS on this. Biggish claims that are so vague as to be borderline unverifiable, no scientific basis laid out.

You clearly haven't tasted coffee or tea brewed with hard water. And I don't see why yeast or fish wouldn't be more comfortable in some range of mineral composition than another.

Re: Recreate famous water profiles using supermarket bottled water

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Post by Arodex »

goobatrooba wrote: post #14

A very strange project. I can see the reasoning to get something familiarly premium from a cheap source, but surely in any developed country your only ever starting point should be tap water. Water that has been bottled months ago and been in (usually plastic) bottles for months can never be better than your local aquifer even if the source is harder. Gets more difficult of course if you are in a big city and your ma…

"A little osmosis machine"... Where do I find these? Would it fit in my appartement? Can I install it without plumbing if I am only a renter? How often do I need to clean it? How often do I need to change the filter? How many kW and how many liters of wasted water do I need to spend to get half a liter of osmosed water?

Your recommendation may be valid for large volumes long term (like the aquarium or brewing at craft beer scale), but for all the other uses not.

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