It is very fortunate for us that the authors were kind enough to demonstrate this has nothing to do with safety by adding this exemption.
Colorado Amended SB051 (Age Verification Bill) to Exclude Open Source Projects
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#42Re: Colorado Amended SB051 (Age Verification Bill) to Exclude Open Source Projects
#43This TOTALLY ORGANIC movement to suddenly please think about the children with required age verification in software makes me sick. Whoever is behind this needs to be exposed, tarred, and feathered.
It's pretty well understood to be Meta, isn't it?
Not as simple as that.
Meta's well know campaign was actually to make the app stores (and maybe OSes) responsible for age verification, not apps.
Google and Apple campaigned to make apps responsible for it.
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#44Re: Colorado Amended SB051 (Age Verification Bill) to Exclude Open Source Projects
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
> there are better ways to solve the stated problem Call your representatives. There is overwhelming demand for age gating social media (based on, honestly, good evidence). This will be implemented based on who calls in. If the status quo of technical people being hopelessly nihilistic continues, it will be written in the stupidest ways possible.
It's always written in the most midwit way possible, then, once predicted failure happens it's patched up to be slightly better. That's the default assumption for most of the things.
What do you expect? American politics selects for mediocrity. Being a world-class expert on something is a career disadvantage. Most of the electorate wants wants bullshit artists and cartoon characters.
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#46I foresee a wave of new porn-related open source applications in Colorado's future.
I'm actually OK if websites trend toward being endpoints and there's competition for frontends. The unification of the two by site owners has been a net negative for the internet.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
TL;DR We need age verification laws to prevent minors from accessing the addictive stream of toxic sludge rather than outlawing its manufacture and distribution.
How exactly would you do this without, you know, violating the first amendment? Algorithmic feeds are nothing without the content. People get toxic sludge because they signal to the algorithm that they like that.
It’s just the algorithms promoting things I want banned.
You may choose to sign up to see all the toxic sludge you wish, as is our constitutional rights as Americans.
You say “they signal to the algorithm”, but how? How did they see it in the first place to be able to provide that signal? It was suggested to them.
Often because that kind of content is really sticky for the site. Whether because you like it or it outrages you or scares you it’s manipulative in a way that is symbiotic with the platform’s goals.
It provides perverse incentives for creators and companies.
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#48(5)(a) "COVERED APPLICATION" MEANS A CONSUMER SOFTWARE APPLICATION THAT IS ACCESSED THROUGH A COVERED APPLICATION STORE AND THAT MAY BE RUN OR DIRECTED BY A USER ON A DEVICE. (b) "COVERED APPLICATION" DOES NOT INCLUDE: (I) A SOFTWARE APPLICATION THAT DOES NOT PROCESS USERS' PERSONAL DATA; OR (II) AN APPLICATION FROM A FREE, PUBLICLY AVAILABLE CODE REPOSITORY.
So if your service is proprietary, but your client is open source, it looks like your're free to go. As someone that relies on third-party clients to get usable interfaces, if this gets widely adopted it would be great news. It would end the cat-and-mouse game from companies trying to force users onto first-party clients.
Most proprietary services would process user data.
It's also naive to believe that a fraction of open source in a companies pipeline would give them a free pass for everything.
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#49Is there any push-back options?
I feel like age verification is important online - a copy of the real world. Check my ID before I go in the pub.
It feels like it's jumped all the way to positive-ID. Not just "of age" but become you are "First Last".
It's possible (right?) to assert age and is-human attributes w/o knowing which specific human at what specific age I am online?
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
So if your service is proprietary, but your client is open source, it looks like your're free to go. As someone that relies on third-party clients to get usable interfaces, if this gets widely adopted it would be great news. It would end the cat-and-mouse game from companies trying to force users onto first-party clients.
Most proprietary services would process user data. It's also naive to believe that a fraction of open source in a companies pipeline would give them a free pass for everything.
But the text says "or," not "and." So by my interpretation if you process user data but are available via "free, public" repo, you're not covered. I presume "free" is defined elsewhere in the text, and that it approximates "open-source."