Anthropic is gross for this. The grandstanding about principles and values is intolerable.
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#62Here's a probably stupid question - if someone were unbounded by ethics and conceivably had enough power and connections to power to shield themselves from many consequences of their actions - and that person owned these DCs, could they in theory observe all the streams of tokens coming in and out of these models, and even exfiltrate copies of these models wholesale to have their own teams do what they will with them…
1) The situation you described would be covered under the contract between Anthropic and xAI, and that any violation of that would be subject to financial penalties and legal proceedings. The US has a robust corporate legal system, and disputes do get resolved through the court system, although in a slow and costly manner.
The contract can stipulate a penalty at a high enough amount to discourage this behavior.
2) Output from models & intra-datacenter communications can be encrypted if customers truly cared.
3) There is no reason do this, because there are far better ways to exfiltrate data from Anthropic models. Chinese companies are already doing this at an industrial scale where they are reselling Claude tokens for 10-20% of the cost while retaining the data to train their own models. https://www.chinatalk.media/p/how-to-buy-cheap-claude-tokens...
If we look at Deepseek V4-pro, created by Deepseek who Anthropic formally accused of harvesting Claude tokens at scale, it performs the same as Claude did 6 months prior.
Re: Anthropic is expanding to Colossus2. Will use GB200
#63I think that's the datacenter with the gas turbine generators that operate without permits because they're "portable." Data centers have tremendous externalities but colossus is a particularly nasty offender, and not just due its size. Edit: They did it with Colossus and now they're doing the exact same thing with Colossus2. https://www.selc.org/news/xai-built-an-illegal-power-plant-t...
What's the tremendous externality of gas generators? People heat their own homes with natural gas and it's no big deal. How can a datacenter that is miles away be worse than that?
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you considered that the march of progress requires human blood to grease the gears and mulched skulls to pave the (highly efficient) road? Really, when you take into account all of the future lives this will improve and save it's difficult to claim any cost now is too high. Would you stand in their way and delay the day that Mythos cures cancer? This is a joke. Read it in a mocking tone.
I'm not saying human blood and mulched skulls are a renewable source of power, I'm just saying . Or maybe they can partner with SoulCycle to power computation with 24/7 spin classes?
And people called the matrix’s human batteries far-fetched.
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
can you elucidate what that advantage is, that isnt renting it out for the highest price to somebody that really needs it?
Well, other than your ability to turn that into cash by renting it out for the highest price to someone who needs it, you can promise prospective employees that are supposed to use that infra to train models that they won’t be compute starved. You can kick off more model training runs and experiments than your competitors. You can kick off a $1-2t IPO claiming you are going to capture a large portion of the largest T…
They have neither the most resources nor the best models. They are mediocre at everything except the CSAM generation market, they've got that one cornered
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#66Why is xAI giving up their advantage? Is this a signal that their frontier model improvements are plateauing and decided there is no value in hoarding all their compute?
I think they overestimated the demand for Grok, which is mostly useless, and now they have too much compute on hand.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yup, and now Anthropic is complicit in the environmental damage and health problems for local residents that these data centers are causing. But hey, number must go up, right?
Have you considered that the march of progress requires human blood to grease the gears and mulched skulls to pave the (highly efficient) road? Really, when you take into account all of the future lives this will improve and save it's difficult to claim any cost now is too high. Would you stand in their way and delay the day that Mythos cures cancer? This is a joke. Read it in a mocking tone.
Not Anthropic, but Sam Altman - AI will solve climate change and cure all diseases.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yup, and now Anthropic is complicit in the environmental damage and health problems for local residents that these data centers are causing. But hey, number must go up, right?
Have you considered that the march of progress requires human blood to grease the gears and mulched skulls to pave the (highly efficient) road? Really, when you take into account all of the future lives this will improve and save it's difficult to claim any cost now is too high. Would you stand in their way and delay the day that Mythos cures cancer? This is a joke. Read it in a mocking tone.
Per sanguinem ad astra
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#69Musk said Anthropic Claude was woke DEI until he said it wasn't. It must be hard for Musk fans to keep up.
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