See the longstanding debate on whether new math is "invented" or "discovered". Most mathematicians I knew thought it's discovered.
An OpenAI model has disproved a central conjecture in discrete geometry
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Re: An OpenAI model has disproved a central conjecture in discrete geometry
#92As I have stated before, AI will win a fields medal before it can manage a McDonald's A difficult part was constructing a chess board on which to play math (Lean). Now it's just pattern recognition and computation. LLMs are just the beginning, we'll see more specialized math AI resembling StockFish soon.
I disagree. It will be able to perform work deserving if a fields medal before it is capable of running a McDonalds. I think it will be running a McDonalds well before either of those things happen, and a fields medal long after both have happened.
Re: An OpenAI model has disproved a central conjecture in discrete geometry
#93Re: An OpenAI model has disproved a central conjecture in discrete geometry
#94Every time I interact even with OpenAI's pro model, I am forced to come to the conclusion that anything outside the domain of specific technical problems is almost completely hopeless outside of a simple enhanced search and summary engine. For example, these machines, if scaling intellect so fiercely that they are solving bespoke mathematics problems, should be able to generate mundane insights or unique conjectures…
Re: An OpenAI model has disproved a central conjecture in discrete geometry
#95AI isn't going to supercharge science but I wouldn't be as dismissive as other posters here.
I'm not a scientist but I like to LARP as one in my free time, and I have found ChatGPT/Claude extremely useful for research, and I'd go as far as to say it supercharged it for me. When I'm learning about a new subject, I'll ask Claude to give me five papers that are relevant to what I'm learning about. Often three of the papers are either irrelevant or kind of shit, but that leaves 2/5 of them that are actually usef…
Re: An OpenAI model has disproved a central conjecture in discrete geometry
#96To the “LLMs just interpolate their training data” crowd: Ayer, and in a different way early Wittgenstein, held that mathematical truths don’t report new facts about the world. Proofs unfold what is already implicit in axioms, definitions, symbols, and rules. I think that idea is deeply fascinating, AND have no problem that we still credit mathematicians with discoveries. So either “recombining existing material” isn…
> I think that idea is deeply fascinating, AND have no problem that we still credit mathematicians with discoveries. Most discoveries are indeed implied from axioms, but every now and then, new mathematics is (for lack of a better word) "created"—and you have people like Descartes, Newton, Leibniz, Gauss, Euler, Ramanujan, Galois, etc. that treat math more like an art than a science. For example, many belive that to…
Re: An OpenAI model has disproved a central conjecture in discrete geometry
#97See the longstanding debate on whether new math is "invented" or "discovered". Most mathematicians I knew thought it's discovered.
Re: An OpenAI model has disproved a central conjecture in discrete geometry
#98To the “LLMs just interpolate their training data” crowd: Ayer, and in a different way early Wittgenstein, held that mathematical truths don’t report new facts about the world. Proofs unfold what is already implicit in axioms, definitions, symbols, and rules. I think that idea is deeply fascinating, AND have no problem that we still credit mathematicians with discoveries. So either “recombining existing material” isn…
Re: An OpenAI model has disproved a central conjecture in discrete geometry
#99Re: An OpenAI model has disproved a central conjecture in discrete geometry
#100See the longstanding debate on whether new math is "invented" or "discovered". Most mathematicians I knew thought it's discovered.
Any design already exists as a possibility, so it could be said to be both invented and discovered, depending on how you look at it.