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College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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The same people who are being boo'd for being AI tycoons would have been cheered by the same students 4 years ago for just being tycoons. I hope everybody reflects on the fact that it's the same people.

Am I out of touch? No, it’s the children who are wrong.

I'm not blaming the kids. They are a reflection of society as a whole. It's just a statement of how a significant portion of society have changed their views of tech billionaires over the span of just a few years.

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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There was an effort to disinvite him as soon as it was announced that he was the speaker.[1] And then when that failed, activists passed out flyers encouraging students to boo Schmidt during his speech.[2] This all took place before he set foot on campus because of alleged sexual harassment. This wasn't about what everyone wants it to be about. [1] https://tucson.com/news/local/education/college/article_078e... [2] h…

He wasn't the only one being boo'd for AI though. I heard a podcast where they played clips from at least 3 or 4 different ones

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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"After my speech for the troops about how we are losing in Iran, my speech to children with cancer about how we've gutted research, sure I can then give a speech to people entering the job market about how AI is ruining the job market" Perfect, that's exactly the message of despair we want to send! (How I imagine picking these speakers goes at every college campus)

what do people need to hear? inspiration or truth? Personally I want the cold awful truth. But I think humanity in general thrives on inspiration and delusion.

The truth cannot be either cold nor awful.

It appears you prefer dressing up your feelings in stoicist aesthetics.

Like a snake pretending to be a statue.

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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Disruption, by definition, has winners and losers and the losers tend to be more visible, more vocal, and more immediate than the winners.

Who are the winners? Where's the profitable billion dollar industry?

I’ve been a small business (manufacturing) owner for about 25 years. AI saves me time, extends my reach and reduces my time to market. AI isn’t a threat to me; it’s a daily tool I use. I’m also a former SWE - I took time most of Anthropic’s courses to maximize my ability to leverage the tools. It’s a win/win for me.

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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Disruption, by definition, has winners and losers and the losers tend to be more visible, more vocal, and more immediate than the winners.

Who do you imagine the winners and losers will be? To the extent AI is useful and disruptive, it's best utilized by people with capital. Which is to say, the winners are few and the losers are everybody else. In this case, the losers aren't just more vocal, they're louder and more visible because they're much more numerous.

See below. Small business owners who learn how to use the tools right are one example.

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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> - people don't actually like music like you, and just want content; non-stop content. This is the big thing that artists are going through right now. They're realizing that most consumers of art don't care about the process or the artist. They just want music as background noise, or an aesthetically pleasing picture on their wall. I wanted to listen to heavy metal songs about office life. I'm not going to spend yea…

The think your last sentence hits the nail on the head: it's good enough for YOU. You've essentially made a novelty song, and I don't believe you're going to be listening to it for years. The problem is when people spend 20 minutes prompting up a song and then attempt to make a career out of slop, and in the process drown out all the new creative works that aren't just remixed slop.

> You've essentially made a novelty song

Disagree. Gp didn't make anything.

I told a waiter in a restaurant what I wanted to eat, and I got it. But I did not make the food : )

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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The "boos" are an indication that kids finally understand who to blame. In a dark time, that's a ray of hope: the kids are alright.

And they’re not going to do anything about it, just boo on command and go to work

They might once they try to work and can't find any because the entry level positions have disappeared thanks to AI.

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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As others point out, a song by the band, "The Who". But it's since come to be a phrase to suggest that the upcoming generation (the kids) are going to be okay. As opposed to the more common refrain of "the kids these days…" (and then append some generational gripe like, "are just weed-smoking, lazy, game-playing, phone-staring, TikTok-headed, etc…"

Other than the TikTok-headed part, the phrase could easily be applied to at least as far back as the 80s (NES) depending on definition of game-playing. Before then, there was foosball and pinball. Nevermind the kids that play card/board games. Also, while not staring at a phone implying smart phone use, it was often said about teens having a phone growing out of the shoulder from them constantly being on the phone wi…

Kids these days ruining their brain by writing things down.

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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The think your last sentence hits the nail on the head: it's good enough for YOU. You've essentially made a novelty song, and I don't believe you're going to be listening to it for years. The problem is when people spend 20 minutes prompting up a song and then attempt to make a career out of slop, and in the process drown out all the new creative works that aren't just remixed slop.

> You've essentially made a novelty song Disagree. Gp didn't make anything. I told a waiter in a restaurant what I wanted to eat, and I got it. But I did not make the food : )

Maybe more like collaborated with a robo chef to make a plate of food based on a recipe you've adapted.

At some point you have to be OK with accepting "I made this" as meaning "my vision was executed under my supervision".

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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Since when does retirement mean living off money you didn't labor for? The whole point is the opposite - you can only retire if you have enough resources/income (pension, 401K, gold bars, etc) that you can support yourself without working. In the US we have a problem that a lot of seniors can't afford to retire.

> In the US we have a problem that a lot of seniors can't afford to retire. Gen Z and majority of millennials are completely unsympathetic to this problem. From their perspective, older generations have actively hindered their careers and financial opportunities to the point where they know they'll have to work their entire lives. They also know the US is marching towards financial calamity when Medicare becomes inso…

Elaborating on this viewpoint: those seniors also had their chance to save for retirement in the cushiest and most prosperous economy of all time. If they didn't choose to do that because they wanted to party or "find themselves", that's on them, and they still got to live it up for cheap while simultaneously removing the ability of future generations to do the same. No millennial or gen Z is going to care that they didn't bother to save a few bucks in a time when houses and college cost as much as a McChicken.

Obviously there are exceptions, but that's the general perception.

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