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Re: Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

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The sheriff that arrested him should face criminal charges for misuse of authority. That he doesn't reflects a structural weakness in US law. In most European legal systems a law enforcement officer overstepping his legal authority would face criminal charges for it.

In the US, we just pay out a lot of taxpayer money to the victim, and the authority abuser gets some time off with pay.

Re: Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

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The suggestion that the actions within UK happen everywhere in Europe is just as misleading.

I don't think so. This is an interview with the German authorities: https://youtu.be/-bMzFDpfDwc

Re: Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

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The Sheriff absolutely should face some consequences, at least to his career. The money paid to Bushart ultimately is no skin off the government's back. It's taxpayer money, they will just underfund a good thing, raise taxes, or print debt to pay it if there's a shortfall. It'd be an interesting thing to see garnishing of wages, deductions from pension funds, or loss of some kind of bonus system to help balance the s…

> The money paid to Bushart ultimately is no skin off the government's back. The suit was filed against Perry County, TN, not the state or federal government. A quick google says that its budget is $33M, so in fact this is a very impactful settlement for the county.

*County taxpayers. The people who actually work for the country won't face any consequences.

Re: Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

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In a sane, fair, and (crucially) long-term stable system, persons given privilege and authority over others are subject to a higher standard for their own behavior. The long-running US trend of the inverse (additional legal protections for positions of authority) is incredibly destructive. This is a moral and values judgment, yes, but it's not just that -- it communicates to the population at large that they should f…

The death penalty should be reserved for people who violate a position of public trust and authority.

Yeah that would never be weaponized with trumped-up charges against political opponents.

Re: Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

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At some point, barring him getting beaten to death in jail, this was always going to get in front of a judge who'd go "uh what the fuck?!" It's about as slam-dunk of a situation as you could come up with.

I could say that about a litany of court cases in the previous decade, yet here we are, our president winning immunity for all tax evasion, in the past and future, for his whole family, and getting seditious white supremacists paid while doing it.

It is my fervent hope that said fund will, when it encounters a judge, collapse for similar reasons.

Re: Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

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Taxpayers should get a line item on their tax bills that specifically counts the amount of their bill that went toward settlements arising out of police misconduct, so they can see in numeric terms what they're voting for.

This is a country where people are fine with more of their taxes going into police budgets every year. Adding a line item to their property tax bill showing how much is paid into settling lawsuits will not make people think that they should demand more accountability. They will think that it should be harder to take legal action against the police.

I didn't think about that, and sadly, you're probably right.

Re: Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

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Linehan was arrested for making this post: > If a trans-identified male is in a female-only space, he is committing a violent, abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops and if all else fails, punch him in the balls This seems like a straightforward call to violence to me. And he was released after police ascertained that he had no intent to act on these statements. If someone made posts along the lines of "Christians…

yes, actually, it would be suprising if CBP took them aside for further questioning. That's not really how it's "supposed" to work.

Er, no, that's exactly how it's supposed to work: people who make violent threats have those threats more thoroughly assessed.

Re: Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

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The death penalty should be reserved for people who violate a position of public trust and authority.

Hot take, but I feel like no humans should be killed as a punishment... But I'm also probably too European to understand the true value of death penalty.

I'm only against the death penalty for the simple fact that courts have convicted innocent people. Sometimes, that conviction happens when the court actively blocks exonerating evidence.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/410/284/

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/547/319/

Re: Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

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You could make this argument about anything. We should have no laws, because they might be abused by a malicious prosecutor. Utter nonsense.

We should indeed get rid of many laws because the benefit is outweighed by the abuse. America has one of the highest rates of incarceration in the world (used to be #1) but suggest that maybe we're overcriminalized and you must be talking nonsense.

You are not suggesting that "maybe we're overcriminalized". You are suggesting that we should not hold law enforcement accountable for egregious abuses of power that do real harm to real people. You think it should not be considered criminal for a police officer to put somebody in prison (under threat of bodily harm or death, by default) just because they feel like it, or whatever. You think police officers should be able to rape innocent travelers on the side of the road and face no consequences for it. You think police officers should be able to scream conflicting orders at somebody and then shoot them in the head because "they were reaching for a weapon".

Or do you not? All these things happen in America, and the officers involved almost never face meaningful consequences. Where do you draw the line, if at all?

Re: Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

#150

The sheriff that arrested him should face criminal charges for misuse of authority. That he doesn't reflects a structural weakness in US law. In most European legal systems a law enforcement officer overstepping his legal authority would face criminal charges for it.

"In return, Bushart will drop the federal civil rights lawsuit he filed against Sheriff Nick Weems, investigator Jason Morrow and the county for violating his constitutional rights." Even at his age of 60 (I'm getting up there), I wouldn't have made that deal. https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates...

Maybe he should try to get compensation through the new Anti-Weaponization Fund.

> “The machinery of government should never be weaponized against any American, and it is this Department’s intention to make right the wrongs that were previously done while ensuring this never happens again,” said Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-...

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