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Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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Fair enough, I appreciate the response. Just note in this case I think the precedent should not be private company can ignore public demand. If they can unilaterally ignore the demands of the Saudi government then why not any liberal government? If you operate in a country you should have to follow their rules. If the rules themselves are bad that is a different question. The remedy in that case then would not be a t…

The export control angle is interesting. I was treating addiction, radicalization, capitulation to authoritarian govts, abetting human rights violations, productivity loss, etc., as the symptom of a common cause: the hyper-optimized engagement model and curbing it with a policy. You're right that some of these harms might warrant categorical exclusions rather than pricing the whole business model out. I may have had…

I appreciate your optimism actually. Someone (it's me) can also share your ideal for social media while also having slightly different takes on what makes the prevailing model wrong exactly.

Thanks for the back and forth.

Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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You asked for a suggestion, they gave you one. And this is your response?

Are you serious? He didn't answer my question, he jumped all over me judging my choices and insinuated that I don't get enough real life human interaction.. so yes that's my response.

Yes, OP did - the alternative to social media is not more social media, which is a view shared by many. OP didn't judge you, they stated their opinion and asked you to soul search.

If you truly feel that judged and offended, and I say this with kindness, perhaps you would do well to ask yourself why.

Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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If they had a moral compass. They’ve proven time and again they don’t.

Meta should exit the US too because the US does {x} that I don't agree with. But Meta doesn't have a moral compass.

> Meta should exit the US too because the US does {x} that I don't agree with.

This can be a real argument and conversation but we would need to know what {x} is and the causal chain that leads the world to be better after Meta leaves the US.

Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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Do folks have a suggestion for a Facebook alternative? I'm about fed up with the state of things, but still want to feel connected to social circles (even if they're online only) and politics (ideally without the hate spam bots).

The trick is to get your friends and family to jump ship with you.

I jumped ship, and the friends and family who are important to me are still on the ship, by and large.

Yet I've never felt as though I'm missing out. We communicate via alternative forms (texts, calls, hanging out in person) and I have never felt disconnected.

The whole trope about people being worried about missing out is misplaced - that feeling is exactly what these products are designed to imbue in their users. Ultimately, if you value others, you'll make the effort to connect somehow, and if they value you, they'll return that energy. If that two-way street doesn't exist, if they're not willing to give back a similar effort, then why do we need to know what they're doing or thinking every day?

Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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If Meta operates in Saudi Arabia and UAE, shouldn't they follow their laws?

I don't think someone accessing content on US servers run by a US company counts as "operating in" any country other than the US.

But Meta is an international company, so maybe they have servers/staff in Saudi Arabia, in which case their only options are to leave the country or comply.

Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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Social media companies post record earnings year after year from their ads business while increasingly proving to be harmful to society. They do the bare minimum in terms of content moderation and bots while priming the algorithms to maximize revenue. The good ol' privatized profits, socialized harm model. In a just world, would social media platforms be taxed higher on corporate revenue and how would that pan out? M…

Is this not a Straw Man, as I'm hearing you say "they do the bare minimum in terms of content moderation and bots" whereas if as the title of the article claims, meta is instead "blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences" then the problem is that the content moderation itself is the problem, not "not doing enough" in content moderation. It's their content moderation and perhaps bot policies causing damage.…

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