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Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by redsocksfan45 »

amunozo wrote: post #280
dwa3592 wrote: post #167

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yeah but i don't think there's any large org which is 'good guys'. Anyone who wants to become a monopoly or very very large is probably suffering from some sort of a neural condition (psychosis, if plural) which we will study 100 years from now. Right now they are rewarded but I think our little minds forget to take the negative externalities into account. I am working on a short story on this topic which is set in 2…

The difference is that Anthropic pretend they're the good guys, while the rest don't.

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Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by Fricken »

joe_mamba wrote: post #630
Fricken wrote: post #612

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The original Autopilot team had some great talent. Elon fired them and then sued them because they wouldn't shut up about Lidar. Elon couldn't say "Every new Tesla is FSD ready" if every new Tesla needed Lidar for that to be true, that was the constraint. The Woz was on TV in an interview saying he bought 2 Model 3s, one for himself and one he could put to work after the robotaxi update. Regular everyday suckers too…

>The original Autopilot team had some great talent. Elon fired them and then sued them because they wouldn't shut up about Lidar. OK, so then why didn't Karpathy also leave in protest? Unless he also supported Elon's decision in which case he's complicit and just as responsible as ELon.

Karpathy didn't leave in protest because he was the guy hired to replace the protesters. His job was to be a credible technical authority on ML backstopping the sales pitch that Full Self-driving could be achieved on Tesla's hardware.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by joe_mamba »

Fricken wrote: post #632
joe_mamba wrote: post #630

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>The original Autopilot team had some great talent. Elon fired them and then sued them because they wouldn't shut up about Lidar. OK, so then why didn't Karpathy also leave in protest? Unless he also supported Elon's decision in which case he's complicit and just as responsible as ELon.

Karpathy didn't leave in protest because he was the guy hired to replace the protesters. His job was to be a credible technical authority on ML backstopping the sales pitch that Full Self-driving could be achieved on Tesla's hardware.

Well then, if he chose to be the fall guy and trade his honor and credibility in exchange for Elon's money and Tesla's prestige at the time while the going was good, why the defense for him now?

He dug his own grave and fell into it.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by joe_mamba »

kopirgan wrote: post #521
joe_mamba wrote: post #496

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>Speaking of, how did he not lose credibility at “full self driving next year, better buy it now”-Tesla? That I also want to know. He bailed out of Tesla right when the limitations of his "LIDAR-less cameras only self driving" system were becoming obvious, and nobody asked him about the hindsight of this obvious fuckup. >but as director of AI and auto vision Karpathy bears the responsibility for those features. Exact…

Guess his boyish looks and his videos educating outsiders and students about AI contributed.. Elon makes it so easy to hate him as much as to admire. No comparison.

>Guess his boyish looks and his videos educating outsiders and students about AI contributed..

IDK but if I judge a head of ML, I'd care more about whether he has delivered technically, not if he's good at PR.

The ZIRP era lead to SV ML scene to be full of false prophets who were just good at PR and advertising for their employer because they were popular with the industry hype, than at actually getting shit that works delivered out the door.

It's good that the money and hype bubbles bursts every now and then as only then are the scammers, false gods, and naked emperors revealed and can the house get cleaned of them.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by turzmo »

monegator wrote: post #446

I will never get why anybody wants to work for FAGMAN. It's depressing how many talents put money above integrity. You don't need to live in the bay area, most civilized places on earth let you live a comfortable life with a 10th of the salary, plus you are not selling your soul. We are doing interesting R&D in other fields too, in places you would never believe.

Genuine question: how is working for Anthropic selling your soul?

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by Fricken »

joe_mamba wrote: post #633
Fricken wrote: post #632

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Karpathy didn't leave in protest because he was the guy hired to replace the protesters. His job was to be a credible technical authority on ML backstopping the sales pitch that Full Self-driving could be achieved on Tesla's hardware.

Well then, if he chose to be the fall guy and trade his honor and credibility in exchange for Elon's money and Tesla's prestige at the time while the going was good, why the defense for him now? He dug his own grave and fell into it.

"Karpathy was either BSing for money, or he actually believed the hype. Either way it was a bad look."

That's from top comment in this thread. I'm not sure how you got the impression I was defending him.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by noufalibrahim »

tkgally wrote: post #584
newppc wrote: post #185

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Yea, I say this as a marketing agency owner, not a developer or AI researcher, that besides Sam Altman, Dario, Demis and Elon, that Karpathy is one of the most influential I follow. There’s a lot of value for the business world in learning AI from someone who has been at the top of their game but now is doing a general service by being a great educator and translator between the fields. His recent Wiki approach may b…

His LLM-wiki framework has been very useful for me for some personal research and knowledge-building projects I've been working on recently. When I get an idea for a new project, I first give it to Claude together with LLM-wiki.md and have it spend a few sessions compiling knowledge in the wiki before beginning work on the project itself. I schedule further wiki-maintenance sessions for later, too. Over time, the wik…

Thank you. I wasn't aware of this way of doing things.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by CamperBob2 »

master-lincoln wrote: post #581
CamperBob2 wrote: post #543

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Good luck "productizing" a model running on the GPU in my basement with no Internet access. I wouldn't use them via a cloud provider, though.

ever heard of product placements?

Not from an open-weight LLM, I haven't. In fact, even the paid models are product-agnostic to a fault when I'm looking for something specific.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by mjg2 »

burnerRhodov3 wrote: post #624
mjg2 wrote: post #386

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Tesla still hasn't achieved their 2016 self-drive goal by their self imposed deadline of 2017, even now a decade later. So, politely, is that accolade merited?

A Tesla drove coast to coast on full autopilot. My Tesla drives to walmart, finds a parking spot, comes to me outside walmart and drives me home. I've been driving my model 3 for years, and honestly, i've never had to "Take over" due to a saftey issue.

I could never trust a Tesla to drive safely around people. They seem like death traps. Could you share a link to the coast to coast drive please? How aided was it?
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