Live data from Hacker News

College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

tomshardware.com

51–60 of 405 posts

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

#52
post #45

> Tennessee State University suggested AI was "rewriting production as we sit here" and told his audience to "deal with it" as they jeered him in response. Guess it doesn't take much to see what's under the mask.

So what is he supposed to say? "Ok let's stop developing AI so you can all have the exact job you trained for?" That hasn't been the case for decades. When I left my eduction I could sequence 200 basepairs using gels. Now I process terabytes of NGS data on supercomputers. I dealt with it, I enjoyed it. Edit: Not saying these kids have nothing to rage against, they can't afford houses, are uninsured, they face a huge…

It's a college graduation speech, he's not required to touch on any specific topics.

"AI is going to upend your nascent adulthood and career" is pretty tone-deaf when delivered by a semi-retired billionaire who was was neck-deep in a conspiracy to reduce wages in his industry barely 20 years ago.

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

#53
post #45

> Tennessee State University suggested AI was "rewriting production as we sit here" and told his audience to "deal with it" as they jeered him in response. Guess it doesn't take much to see what's under the mask.

So what is he supposed to say? "Ok let's stop developing AI so you can all have the exact job you trained for?" That hasn't been the case for decades. When I left my eduction I could sequence 200 basepairs using gels. Now I process terabytes of NGS data on supercomputers. I dealt with it, I enjoyed it. Edit: Not saying these kids have nothing to rage against, they can't afford houses, are uninsured, they face a huge…

He can shut up?

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

#54

Yeah, it is incredibly tone deaf. I can fully understand some executives trying to hype up AI with the "It'll create more jobs!" mantra, but as it happens, the AI boom coincided with the post-COVID layoffs (from the hiring frenzy we saw back then) - so even though AI might directly not be responsible for less junior/grad hiring in the various industries, the vibe is that it is still responsible for the tough times co…

The over hiring explanation will only last so long - you can't really say we were still over hiring after about 2023, right?

So by next year you'd expect that shedding to be mostly done I think. and then companies no longer hiring juniors to train up will be obviously ai related

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

#55

> Schmidt, who served in various capacities as CEO, Chairman, and technical advisor to Google and its parent company Alphabet across several decades, ... It is gratuitous to say “several,” no? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Schmidt

From all the articles I see about him I feel like he's constantly paying money to get in the news / social media.

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

#56
"Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer."

There's an interesting duality. If you are someone people can target with relentless online harassment, you should be mortally scared to share your honest opinion.

If you are not, like Eric Schmidt's, there's absolutely no reason to care what other think.

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

#57

I’d be anxious, too, if I were just starting my career. Those kids just invested a lot of time and money in an education, and the payoff looks a lot like a gamble. But AI is going to help, not hurt in the long run. Technology always makes things better and cheaper in the long run. Poverty diminishes, free time increases, things truly do get better over time. This’ll be a short term bump, but it’ll be a steep one.

How short term do you think it'll be, and how confident are you in that?

If it takes until these kids are in their 30s their careers will be pretty affected. "maybe the next generation of kids after you will be fine" isn't super comforting.

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

#58

AI is hitting junior positions way more than senior ones right now, and students with no professional experience are exactly who that affects most. They're walking into a job market where the kind of role they were supposed to start in is shrinking. That said, booing a speaker mid-speech wouldn't be my move on my own graduation day. But I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't be grinding my teeth in my seat.

Once the rest of the crowd is booing it seems pretty safe to join in.

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

#59
post #45

> Tennessee State University suggested AI was "rewriting production as we sit here" and told his audience to "deal with it" as they jeered him in response. Guess it doesn't take much to see what's under the mask.

So what is he supposed to say? "Ok let's stop developing AI so you can all have the exact job you trained for?" That hasn't been the case for decades. When I left my eduction I could sequence 200 basepairs using gels. Now I process terabytes of NGS data on supercomputers. I dealt with it, I enjoyed it. Edit: Not saying these kids have nothing to rage against, they can't afford houses, are uninsured, they face a huge…

Do you seriously don't understand why?

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

#60
post #45

> Tennessee State University suggested AI was "rewriting production as we sit here" and told his audience to "deal with it" as they jeered him in response. Guess it doesn't take much to see what's under the mask.

So what is he supposed to say? "Ok let's stop developing AI so you can all have the exact job you trained for?" That hasn't been the case for decades. When I left my eduction I could sequence 200 basepairs using gels. Now I process terabytes of NGS data on supercomputers. I dealt with it, I enjoyed it. Edit: Not saying these kids have nothing to rage against, they can't afford houses, are uninsured, they face a huge…

> But why so anti AI specfically?

Because society is structured so that every time some labor-saving innovation comes along, it's used as a tool to drive down wages and reduce workers' bargaining power. And they leaders of these industries aren't exactly hiding it.

You might be able to game it in the short term, but It's not like anyone is seriously thinking this will reduce the totality of our efforts in the long term. Employers are already champing at the bit to reduce headcount and increase output targets.

The only hope these people have to offer in their bleak future is that if you play your cards right, you might be one of the few crabs to climb over the other crabs and escape the bucket before it's dumped into the kettle. It's giving "we need one person from each department to stay on and train the India team after the layoffs" vibes.

Post reply on HN