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Re: Google changes its search box

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Post by jve »

Rp8yXmdmr wrote: post #722
abirch wrote: post #196

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Here is what I think the future web may look like: 1) Sites will have mcp / APIs for LLMs. So that when I ask my AI Agent du jour. It can call any of the sites where I have subscriptions for information. 2) Sites that are passion projects will be harvested by our LLM overlords. 3) Sites that people don't type into their web browser and need ad revenue will die. 4) SEO will finally die.

> 4) SEO will finally die. I recently search for some generic home appliance term and google's AI Overview blurb ended with "For more information about repairing home devices check samsung.com" (non clickable) I am sure SEO companies will claim they can make that happen on purpose, and people will pay them for that.

Well I recently also repaired home appliance (washing machine with fault code).

Opened ChatGPT, photographed the machine because I didn't know concrete model, he saw the error code. I told that it also leaked prior to today and it just said: clean the filter.

Did it, and now it continues to work :)

Another bullet point: Father has older Audi, Battery drains fast. Some mechanic said him to check comfort control module - usually does that for those older cars.

While I was measuring how much Amps battery draws and let ChatGPT know what I'm doing, he also tells me the same stuff mechanic did. I hope that mechanic wasn't using ChatGPT :) Anyways, there was no current leak after ripping out comfort control module.

Re: Google changes its search box

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Post by throwatdem12311 »

youre-wrong3 wrote: post #638
throwatdem12311 wrote: post #529

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My grandfather was one of the first people in Canada to own a commercially available chainsaw. Let me tell you - it didn’t take 30 years for people to figure out that chainsaws were useful.

Yet most of the kids on HN think they write better code than ai and that it’s completely useless and has no place.

LLMs do write code better than many engineers. It’s just the the normal distribution and the way LLMs are built. Just because it doesn’t write better code than above average engineers doesn’t make it useless though.

People that say AI writes better code than them is such a tell but not the one they might think it is.

Whether or not it is worth the cost or second order effects on society is a different discussion.

Re: Google changes its search box

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Post by bookofjoe »

Gareth321 wrote: post #761
yard2010 wrote: post #685

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That's the problem with the current monopolistic system, the money won't go down the stream, it's like a dam. One big dam owned by a few people is worse than many small dams

I agree. For what it's worth, I think Google's business model is in trouble. They're putting in heroic effort to stay relevant during this shift to AI search, but how does their advertising model work when people expect summarised and accurate information instead of scrolling pages of ads? The search space is actually not that unhealthy. There are competitors. They just lack the reach of Google. These competitor will…

>... I think Google's business model is in trouble.

>Google parent Alphabet profit jumps 81% in Big Tech earnings roundup

https://www.euronews.com/business/2026/04/30/google-parent-a...

Re: Google changes its search box

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Post by le-mark »

jcattle wrote: post #705
stck wrote: post #679

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LLM agent is the new browser. We had internet before we had browsers, then the browser took over as the main method of consuming the internet. It has a lot of problems and e.g. mobile apps are trying to fill the void, but they have their own problems. Next stage is the personal assistant agent, which will be the single entry point to the internet.

So when will you stop visiting HN?

HN blocks AI or otherwise alters the data. I tried summarizing a thread last week and Claude reported it only got a handful of entries. I saved the page as a pdf and Claude was able to process it.

Real human discussions will be gold going forward. HN should be paying us actually.

Re: Google changes its search box

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Post by bookofjoe »

b112 wrote: post #780
Gareth321 wrote: post #761

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I agree. For what it's worth, I think Google's business model is in trouble. They're putting in heroic effort to stay relevant during this shift to AI search, but how does their advertising model work when people expect summarised and accurate information instead of scrolling pages of ads? The search space is actually not that unhealthy. There are competitors. They just lack the reach of Google. These competitor will…

Hanging my comment here, not blaming the parent poster, it's just relevant... All the "AI search" I've tried is far less relevant than a proper search, using search engines without it seems much faster and more relevant. Whenever I get AI search results, its summaries lack substance, are often just plain wrong, and so on. When I check, it's often usong the wrong aggregate data to return results. Search engines these…

>All the "AI search" I've tried is far less relevant than a proper search, using search engines without it seems much faster and more relevant.

I've had the opposite experience with Perplexity Pro. Yesterday it took just under nine minutes to deliver a detailed and accurate answer as to the nearest locations where I can buy Meta Ray-Ban Display glasses (at least 3 hours drive away FWIW) that day.

In the past several months I've spent countless hours using search engines with dismal results that weren't close to that.

Re: Google changes its search box

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Post by einpoklum »

A great opportunity to stop using Google search.

... and an opportunity to try freeing yourself from Google influence more generally, by finding alternatives to their other services, like email, maps etc.

Re: Google changes its search box

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Post by gravatron »

qurren wrote: post #351
youre-wrong3 wrote: post #347

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Depends on what you ask. It's pretty easy to get wrong information. e.g. search for "how do you make money with options" Google's AI says "When you buy a Call, you are betting the stock price will go up. When you buy a Put, you are betting it will go down." Wrong right off the bat, because it ingested a whole bunch of get-rich-quick bull on the internet. The correct version is that if you buy a call you are betting t…

I used this exact search in Google's AI, plus 3 other LLM models, and not a single one simplified options down to anything like the one sentence example you provided. In fact, they all provided multiple paragraphs of information on the basics on option buying and selling, and provided links for learning more.

Funny enough, the LLM's prove to be more trustworthy than the the posters here on HN like you who are full of shit.

Re: Google changes its search box

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Post by bsenftner »

ethbr1 wrote: post #753
acron0 wrote: post #668

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My partner recently bought a receipe book that was probably 100% slop, from the recipes themselvea to the images for each dish.

We're already post dead info. The only solution is to find recipe books that were printed in previous decades. Which is ironic, given that Google's entire value proposition (to users) was extracting signal from noise... ... and now it's come full A/B-advertising-optimization to being useless at that, when the need is greater than ever. Imho, Google's greatest failing was missing how its own incentives warped creation…

We have a distinct poverty when it comes to secondary considerations and long term ramifications - which used to be manageable when progress was slower. Now, we're on a very steep acceleration/progress curve, and any shortsighted mistakes cause extremely large ramifications. Which are then compounded by both more short sighted non-fixes and our rapid acceleration/progress curve layering in additional confusion, misunderstandings, omissions of critical information.

Re: Google changes its search box

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Post by sandworm101 »

b112 wrote: post #780
Gareth321 wrote: post #761

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I agree. For what it's worth, I think Google's business model is in trouble. They're putting in heroic effort to stay relevant during this shift to AI search, but how does their advertising model work when people expect summarised and accurate information instead of scrolling pages of ads? The search space is actually not that unhealthy. There are competitors. They just lack the reach of Google. These competitor will…

Hanging my comment here, not blaming the parent poster, it's just relevant... All the "AI search" I've tried is far less relevant than a proper search, using search engines without it seems much faster and more relevant. Whenever I get AI search results, its summaries lack substance, are often just plain wrong, and so on. When I check, it's often usong the wrong aggregate data to return results. Search engines these…

It is totally dependant on context. Ask about product purchases/prices and it will give you great results. Ask for basic data and it will quote wikipedia or government websites all day. Ask for a coding solution and it will spit out answers ripped from the corners of github. But i asked google about hydrogen-3 recently and got back a result saying that we were mining it on the moon. An entire space economy was invented because AI cannot tell scifi from reality.

The real test: dont test AI by asking it questions you already know. Ask it a proper question and then go out and find the answer yourself. That is where AI really falls down, the non-trivial stuff.

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