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Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by clbrmbr »

amunozo wrote: post #280
dwa3592 wrote: post #167

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yeah but i don't think there's any large org which is 'good guys'. Anyone who wants to become a monopoly or very very large is probably suffering from some sort of a neural condition (psychosis, if plural) which we will study 100 years from now. Right now they are rewarded but I think our little minds forget to take the negative externalities into account. I am working on a short story on this topic which is set in 2…

The difference is that Anthropic pretend they're the good guys, while the rest don't.

Come on, Anthropic ARE the good guys if there are any. Certainly the incentives of trillions will do what money does, but they have assembled an incredibly altruistic and philosophically-minded crew. I’m rooting for them and trying real hard not to get cynical.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by jazzyjackson »

soundworlds wrote: post #502
NitpickLawyer wrote: post #128

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And then regulatory capture it to death. Seriously, Anthropic is top notch in their coding models, but they are not the good guys in the tech vs. product for humanity's sake debate.

Totally. They are the only ones who said no to letting their tech being used for illegal use cases. This doesn't automatically make them the great virtuous team. It just means the rest of the pack are toxic as all hell.

They didn’t even take the position that it was unethical to participate in surveillance and kill chains, just that the tech isn’t ready yet so it’s irresponsible to use it that way.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by jonnyasmar »

aykutseker wrote: post #295

the glorified marketer framing in this thread is missing the bigger signal. karpathy publicly pausing eureka labs to join anthropic is an ai founder of his caliber effectively conceding that verticals get eaten by frontier upgrades.for everyone here building on top of foundation, that's the actual news

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Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by csa »

OkWing99 wrote: post #480
raincole wrote: post #230

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Name three things they destroyed?

1. Figma (in progress) 2. Most entry level jobs for current graduates in white collar fields. (See hiring rates for these positions) 3. Thousands of layoffs (mostly attributed to AI use, while not 100%, the Anthropic's specific marketing push has a huge influence on this - unlike OAI and other labs) 4. All low-code products/startups 5. Web agencies who did small websites for local businesses While AI industry push is…

> 1. Figma (in progress)

Hmmm… maybe. I think not. It really depends on your other claims below, with which I mostly disagree.

2. Most entry level jobs for current graduates in white collar fields. (See hiring rates for these positions)

Maybe a small amount. Entry level white collar jobs have a low hiring rate for other reasons, imho.

3. Thousands of layoffs (mostly attributed to AI use, while not 100%, the Anthropic's specific marketing push has a huge influence on this - unlike OAI and other labs)

What they say and what the actual reasons are not the same, imho. Correcting for over hiring is the actual main reason.

4. All low-code products/startups

Low-code and no-code products in the hands of someone who doesn’t have a developer’s mind and/or experience usually ends up as a mess, and quickly becomes an unusable mess.

I know of exactly two people who have done successfully used AI to make a low-code/no-code product. One is just highly motivated and wicked smart. The other did a minor in CS a long time ago (works in a different field). Everyone else shows me a pile of garbage and asks me how to fix it (answer: throw it away and start from scratch).

5. Web agencies who did small websites for local businesses

As with 4 above, the only site a local business can make for themselves is one that functions as a business card… at best. Usually it looks more like a business card that a kindergartner made. They simply don’t understand what makes a website good for their business, therefore they cannot direct AI to make it for them.

There’s a lot to criticize about AI, imho, but these aren’t on the list.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by sho_hn »

23998h wrote: post #505
bonoboTP wrote: post #498

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What is he selling? How is this time different compared to when he was at OpenAI or at Tesla? You could say he was shilling those products too. I don't see any shift. He's still posted free in depth YouTube videos recently.

> What is he selling? Is that a serious question? He already promoted vibe coding and AI hype. Now he is literally there to promote Anthropic and its IPO price. When he was at OpenAI it wasn't overtly commercial yet. At Tesla he had a way lower profile. Now he is the vibe coding Jesus for deluded software engineers. The impact is much larger.

> At Tesla he had a way lower profile.

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He was literally rolled out in front of camera as Tesla's AI prodigy at multiple streamed events designed to appeal to techy consumers and dev recruitment. He's definitely been one of AI's public personas for a long time now, and his employers have regularly aided/directed/utilized him accordingly.

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Post by teravor »

stingraycharles wrote: post #489
ollin wrote: post #246

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Specifically it looks like he's planning to extend the ideas from https://github.com/karpathy/autoresearch into a larger effort towards recursive training improvement [1]: > Excited to welcome Andrej to the Pretraining team! He'll be building a team focused on using Claude to accelerate pretraining research itself. I can’t think of anyone better suited to do it — looking forward to what we build together! [1] https:/…

Am I the only one who wasn’t particularly impressed by AutoResearch? If you looked at what the agent was actually doing, it was just tuning parameters mostly, not really trying different novel approaches. I couldn’t help myself but consider this mostly a very inefficient variant of hyperparameter optimization, but someone correct me if I’m wrong, I may be looking at this too pessimistic.

    > Am I the only one who wasn’t particularly impressed by AutoResearch?
isn't it just a nerfed AlphaEvolve? https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.13131

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by rTX5CMRXIfFG »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #510
yuhmahp wrote: post #506

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These seems to be healthy desctructions, if the market rejects them eventually for a better product

But it’s not a better product, it’s just cheaper.

That’s one person’s opinion, yours, and not the market’s.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by dyauspitr »

OkWing99 wrote: post #480
raincole wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Name three things they destroyed?

1. Figma (in progress) 2. Most entry level jobs for current graduates in white collar fields. (See hiring rates for these positions) 3. Thousands of layoffs (mostly attributed to AI use, while not 100%, the Anthropic's specific marketing push has a huge influence on this - unlike OAI and other labs) 4. All low-code products/startups 5. Web agencies who did small websites for local businesses While AI industry push is…

This is not destroying. This is success.
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