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Minnesota becomes first state to ban prediction markets

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There's plenty of legal gambling in Minnesota. To quote the Minnesota Legislative Reference Library it includes "horse racing, a card club at Canterbury Park, Indian tribal casinos, charitable gambling, and a state lottery." ( https://www.lrl.mn.gov/guides/guides?issue=gambling )

If you're talking Minnesota its scratch offs and bingo all the way down.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious to see how this works out, because sports betting is _not_ in the CFTC's remit, and Kalshi etc's argument that states can't regulate them because they're not technically sports betting is contrary to the spirit of the law

There’s no “house” or “book” aspect to Kalshi. They are nothing more than contracts that are bought and sold between individuals.

Lots of types of contracts bought and sold between individuals are prohibited by law.

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I wonder if it can really be enforced. It's clear that prediction markets are a scourge -- there seems to be no upside whatsoever.

there is one upside, its a big incentive to indirectly leak things like album release dates and military operations. anything that helps get some secrets out is a positive in my book

But they don't get secrets out, they just make a bet? Show me any information like this on any of the prediction markets...

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For the record, Minnesota currently has a complete ban on sports betting. We've seen a couple other states that allow sports betting go after prediction markets. Personally, I feel that any state that allows sports betting is going to struggle to argue a case to ban prediction markets because you're essentially arguing over implementation details. Even arguments that certain prediction markets are ripe for insider tr…

I think you could make a case in separating the two, of course opening further discussion, but because sports betting takes place in a comparatively very controlled environment I think the risk profile is pretty different versus, idk, betting that the temperate will be at or above a certain point and then someone sticks a hair dryer on the thermostat[1]. Cheating can happen in sports of course, but the risk profile and real-world impact I think is quite a bit different. Worth discussing, but I think that's an important distinction.

Separately, I believe over time that prediction markets will become the source of real world truth. Why? Because money is at stake and so validity and verification matter. It'll be interesting to see how, if this comes to fruition, how laws in states like Minnesota affect news reporting and journalism. It seems likely to me that at a certain point prediction markets will buy traditional media and news outlets to hire out the fact-finding and reporting teams to ensure ground truth, and of course to use journalism as the gateway to the market. So you read an article "China disappears random person" and then at the end you click a button and bet whether that person is alive or dead or whatever.

[1] https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/options/articles/polymarke...

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There should be a ban on the instagram reels showing gambling like it's not a big deal. They are deliberately targeting teens and it's quite sickening.

If you work at one of these companies it's the same as working for a payday loan company. You are making blood money.

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There's plenty of legal gambling in Minnesota. To quote the Minnesota Legislative Reference Library it includes "horse racing, a card club at Canterbury Park, Indian tribal casinos, charitable gambling, and a state lottery." ( https://www.lrl.mn.gov/guides/guides?issue=gambling )

There might be a couple more, but there is far less legal gambling in MN than anywhere else I've been in the US (though I have not been everywhere in the past 5 years, and I assume laws have changed enough to ignore experience older than that).

Indian tribal casinos are only legal because they are in a separate country as far as the state is concerned. (they don't bother, but each reservation has a good case to join the UN if they wanted to)

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> The prohibition extends to services supporting prediction markets, like virtual private networks, that could allow consumers to disguise their location and get around the ban. I'm sorry, what the fuck?

That's a creative interpretation by NPR. The law doesn't mention VPNs. The law bans:

> provid[ing] supportive services to a prediction market or consumer knowing that the services will be used to identify a consumer’s location, transfer money, or make or process payments for the purpose of allowing consumers to make wagers or to settle wagers made by consumers in violation of this section.

"knowing" is key here.

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